Re: PIE meaning of the Germanic dental preterit

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
<miguelc@...> wrote:

> >a) "bo:id as source of baid-(yti) in Lithuanian"
> >

I need to highlight again this to you :
a long diphtong /o:i/ will not give /ai/ in Lithuanian


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> > or regarding
> >
> >b) "your bHh2i or bHih2" (this is like to to say that 'something

is

> >black or white') in addition there is no *bHhi- possible in PIE
>
> Why not? It's simply the zero grade of *bheHi-.

Because *bHh- being impossible to be pronounced ->and because, in
this particular case, we have also a y/w/r/l/m/n 'around' the
metathesis took place immediately : *bHih-.

So it's an impossible syllabification.


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> > or regarding
> >
> >c) "your PIE different derivations for the same verb one PIE
> >derivation for Latvian and one PIE derivation for Lithuanian" -> (-
>
> >where is the Common Baltic ?)
>
> Given that the two verbs have slightly different semantics,
> and that verbs in *-i:ti are productive, there need not be
> any Commmon Baltic here.

I really doubt. (this was only one of your 'hocus-pocus' with
Patrick)

I need to tell you that 'usually' in such cases not only than a
Common Baltic form is constructed but the Latvian accent is taken
into account as the original one.


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> You have misunderstood me. Balto-Slavic productive verbs in
> *-i:ti are almost always denominal or deverbal. They are
> derived either from another verb (e.g. Slavic nesti =>
> nositi), or from a noun/adjective (e.g. Slavic slava =>
> slaviti). In this case, the Lithuanian verb seems to be
> denominal (but I would feel better if I could consult
> Fraenkel).
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> miguelc@...

Yes I misunderstood you: I thought that you have talked in
relation with PIE

I will check the situation too.

Marius

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