Re: Basque, Etruscan and Common Sound Changes (was: Finnish KASKA)

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 13:43:18 -0800 (PST), Rick McCallister
<gabaroo6958@...> wrote:

>Sorry but min- is from proto-Basque *bin-
>Miguel just proved it to you.

Larry Trask in fact... (based on earlier work by Mitxelena
and others).

>You're putting your theory before the facts
>That's why Bengtson exposes himself to ridicule
>
>
>--- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:
>
>> Through words like *min, 'tongue'; [mi] is present
>> in words for 'tongue'
>> around the world.
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
>> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 3:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [tied] Basque, Etruscan and Common
>> Sound Changes (was: Finnish
>> KASKA)
>>
>>
>> > Trask's proto-Basque had no /m/.
>> > Aquitananian had no /m/.
>> > So, you must be talking about a pre-proto-Basque.
>> > So, how did you reconstruct an /m/ for
>> > pre-proto-Basque, given that proto-Basque had no
>> /m/?

Indeed. It is of course possible, and I have even suggested
so myself, that pre-proto-Basque had *m, and that it gave
*b- in initial position (b- is one of the most frequent
initial consonants in Basque, so it might well continue a
number of pre-proto sounds such as *b-, *m- and *w-) [I have
further suggested that **-m- gave *-n- in medial position].

None of that diminishes the fact that Proto-Basque (or
better: Pre-Basque, as Basque is a language, not a language
family) had no phoneme */m/.

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
miguelc@...