park, was *pVs- for cat

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 49442
Date: 2007-07-30

Gentlemen:
Your arguments are intersting but cut out the insults
lest you give us all of us crackpot lunatics a bad
name.

park is an intersting word
1. It can't be Q-Celtic
2. It couldn't have been borowed by Goidelic until
after 500-600 AD because early Old Irish
systematically replaced /p/ with /kw/ then /k/
3. It can't be native to Germanic
4. the final -k does seem to be a suffix, see Spanish
parra "trellis, grid, etc." --which seems to mean the
same as Latin carcer "jail" but originally "grid", if
I remember correctly. This makes me wonder if it's a
P-Celtic word --but this presupposes that either the
Latin root was *kwar- or that somehow *kar mutated to
*kwar. So are there any IE *kar-, *kwar- words that
mean "enclosure, grid" etc.?
I'll sit back and let you guys correct me and argue
the points but first put away all sharp objects.

> >> <páirc> is from Romance (e.g., OFr <parc>.
>
> > Unfortunately you don't provide the sense, whether
it's
> > like Engl. 'park' or something closer to 'paddock'
which
> > is related, in its turn related to 'pad';
>
> The DIL gloss is 'a field'; Dinneen gives 'a field,
esp. a
> pasture-field, a pasture, a park'. And I'm inclined
to
> accept the 2005 OED assessment of <paddock> as
probably a
> variant of <parrock>, OE <pearroc, pearruc> 'fence
by which
> a space is enclosed; enclosure, enclosed land',
cognate with
> OHG <pfarrih, pferrih> 'a pen, enclosure, hurdle',
MLG
> <perk> 'enclosure', MDu <parc, perc, paerc, parric,
perric>
> 'enclosed place, park' (influenced by Fr. <parc>),
and
> unrelated to <pad>.

Not true; the *-Vk suffix is very common in NWBlock
words

> > 'parco' is without etymology in Latin
>
> Irrelevant. Remember that 'truism'?

Remember what I said about the donor language becoming
a candidate for
a direct loan?



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