Re: [tied] Re: When Getae equaled Goths

From: george knysh
Message: 12813
Date: 2002-03-23

Rex wrote:

(I also oppose Piotr's summary that the region
was "zeroed out" language and population wise ..then
backfilled with
other Danubian Latin speakers later..this later group
evolving a
Romaneste language as a replacement people. I take
the continuity route
of explanation of mixed Latinized people in place
surviving a series of
regional overlords. "Latinized Geto-Daci " forward
through the invaders
in my view.

*****GK: Piotr has offered good reasons for his view.
What are yours? I would be especially interested in
your explanation as to the name "Vlakh" attached to
the ancestors of today's Romanians. Secondly, why is
it that the extant autochtonous population of
Transylvania (per your opinion) adopted the Hungarian
designation for this territory (Erdeli if I remember
correctly)?******

(Steve Long)-: > Both Herodotus and Strabo also
mention the "desert of the Getae"
or
O-: > no-man's land northeast of the Danube. And that
might suggest
that
O-: > "Getes" was a place as well as it was a people
at some earlier
O-: point in time.

(RMcT)One reason why I tentatively extend Getae (in
tribal groups) eastward
prior to 400 BC.

(S.L.)O-: And for ancient writers that could be the
reason for
O-: giving the name.

(RMcT)Precisely.

*****GK: Herodotus nowhere refers to the "Desert of
the Getae". Strabo does of course, but he wrote nearly
five centuries after Herodotus. Herodotus knows of no
Getans north of the Danube in his time.*******


(RMcT)The language of the Bastarnae is disputed (and
some say German)

****GK: There is no other definition of their language
in the extant sources.*****





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