--- "Rex H. McTyeire" <
rexbo@...> wrote:
I
> speculate (George opposes) there were Getae groups
> on and well east of
> the Dniester..prior to the Scythian incursion.
*****GK: I think our difference is that you would like
to see all these linguistically and culturally related
groups labeled "Thracian" and their area of habitation
"Thrace", whereas I distinguish Thracians from
Daco-Getans (fully agreeing with Piotr Gonsiorowski on
this), and both from a northern "Thrakoid" group which
left no recorded name but whose existence may be
postulated on the basis of extant hydronyms and
toponyms reaching northward to the border between
forest-steppe and forest, and eastward to the Dnipro
r. and slightly beyond. This third group had an
organization which Herodotus anachronistically labeled
"Ancient Scythia", which preceded the advent of
Cimmeria, and was later fused with the incoming Iranic
Paralatae/Skoloti and others to form the classical
Scythia of history.******
(RMcT) There were no Getic states or organized Getae
when
> the Goth appeared.
*****GK: None that were so called. But if one accepts
(as I do) the equation Getae=Daci, there was at least
the Carpi group beyond the borders of the Empire, and
perhaps other "free" Dacians. The Costoboki had been
conquered by the Vandals in the 170's*****
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