hooked-o, ø correction

> The letter <ø> is the result of u/w-mutation of earlier /e/.

True in some cases...e.g. søkkva, røru, where the /e/ goes back to
Proto Norse, and gøra < *garwjan--where the /e/ was the i-umlaut
of /a/.

But sometimes it has a different origin. Other sources of <ø>:

i-umlaut of /o/, as in kømr.
i-umlaut of hooked-o, as in høggr (inf. höggva).

Llama Nom



--- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "llama_nom" <600cell@...>
wrote:

>
>
> Patricia,
>
> A lot of books/editions/texts spell both "hooked o" and <ø> as in
> Modern Icelandic: <ö>. In certain words though, <ø> later became
> <e>, and is so spelt in some editions of Old Norse texts too.
>
> kømr > kemr "comes" (modern: kemur)
> øfstr > efstr "highest, last"
> gøra > gera "do"
>
> søkkva > sökkva "sink"
> hj(hooked-o)rr > hjörr
>
> When texts that do make a difference between "hooked o" and <ø>

are

> transcribed and put on the internet, the "hooked o" is often
> represented by <ö>, which seems logical, as this letter would
> otherwise be sitting around doing nothing, so:
>
> søkkva > sökkva "sink"
> hjörr > hjörr
>
> The letter <ø> is the result of u/w-mutation of earlier /e/.

While

> hooked-o is the u/w-mutation of earlier /a/. If that helps...
>
> Similarly the ligature <oe> appears as <æ> in a lot of editions of
> Old Norse texts, especially on the the internet, just as in the
> modern language. Cleasby & Vigfusson spell both <æ>. Zoega
> distinguishes them, but doesn't separate them alphabetically--

which

> is handy for looking up if you're not sure which it is.
>
> Llæma Nöm
>
>
>
>
> --- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah Bowen"

<sarahbowen@...>

> wrote:
> > Hi Patricia,
> >
> > Yes, it doesn't seem to matter what software a computer uses -
> none of us seem able to find the ON "o" with a little squiggle
> underneath. Like you, I use ø instead when posting up passages

from

> Auðun.
> >
> > Kveðja,
> > Sarah.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Patricia
> > To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:19 AM
> > Subject: [norse_course] Hmmmm this book by Anthony Faulkes
> >
> >
> > EDDA - Skáldskaparmál and volume two which is the Glossary

and

> Index of names.
> > my PC does the "strange little letters" like á ð etc, but in
> this book here I have a little o with a wiggle underneath it
> t'would be a cedilla maybe well PC don't do that, could I use ø
> instead, or would it look daft, any advice gratefully received
> > Patricia
> > The character map has cedilla thingies for other letters

wonder

> why not the o
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