Sael Sarah
What you have chosen Sarah, do that, it is suitable - how could it be otherwise.
Ø andÖ are listed together in my Zöega and I have had a cursory glance through
the pages and an O with a wittle tail is not to be seen, perhaps they all went back to Iceland or where-so-ever
Kveðja
Patricia
Personally I think they've become redundant should they get severance pay.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [norse_course] Re: Hmmmm this book by Anthony Faulkes (hooked o)

Thanks for this insight, Llama-nom.  The next time I post up a section of Auðun I´ll make sure I use ö rather than ø.  Is everyone else ok with this?
 
Kveðja,
Sarah.
----- Original Message -----
From: llama_nom
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 10:06 PM
Subject: [norse_course] Re: Hmmmm this book by Anthony Faulkes (hooked o)



Patricia,

A lot of books/editions/texts spell both "hooked o" and <ø> as in
Modern Icelandic: <ö>.  In certain words though, <ø> later became
<e>, and is so spelt in some editions of Old Norse texts too.

kømr > kemr "comes" (modern: kemur)
øfstr > efstr "highest, last"
gøra > gera "do"

søkkva > sökkva "sink"
hj(hooked-o)rr > hjörr

When texts that do make a difference between "hooked o" and <ø> are
transcribed and put on the internet, the "hooked o" is often
represented by <ö>, which seems logical, as this letter would
otherwise be sitting around doing nothing, so:

søkkva > sökkva "sink"
hjörr > hjörr

The letter <ø> is the result of u/w-mutation of earlier /e/.  While
hooked-o is the u/w-mutation of earlier /a/.  If that helps...

Similarly the ligature <oe> appears as <æ> in a lot of editions of
Old Norse texts, especially on the the internet, just as in the
modern language.  Cleasby & Vigfusson spell both <æ>.  Zoega
distinguishes them, but doesn't separate them alphabetically--which
is handy for looking up if you're not sure which it is.

Llæma Nöm




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wrote:
> Hi Patricia,
>
> Yes, it doesn't seem to matter what software a computer uses -
none of us seem able to find the ON "o" with a little squiggle
underneath.  Like you, I use ø instead when posting up passages from
Auðun.
>
> Kveðja,
> Sarah.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Patricia
>   To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:19 AM
>   Subject: [norse_course] Hmmmm this book by Anthony Faulkes
>
>
>   EDDA - Skáldskaparmál  and volume two which is the Glossary and
Index of names.
>   my PC does the "strange little letters"  like á ð etc, but in 
this book here I have a little o with a  wiggle underneath it
t'would be a cedilla maybe well PC don't do that, could I use ø
instead, or would it look daft, any advice gratefully received
>   Patricia
>   The character map has cedilla thingies for other letters wonder
why not the o
>
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