Sael SarahWhat you have chosen Sarah, do that, it is suitable - how could it be otherwise.Ø andÖ are listed together in my Zöega and I have had a cursory glance throughthe pages and an O with a wittle tail is not to be seen, perhaps they all went back to Iceland or where-so-everKveðjaPatriciaPersonally I think they've become redundant should they get severance pay.----- Original Message -----From: Sarah BowenSent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:35 PMSubject: Re: [norse_course] Re: Hmmmm this book by Anthony Faulkes (hooked o)Thanks for this insight, Llama-nom. The next time I post up a section of Auðun I´ll make sure I use ö rather than ø. Is everyone else ok with this?Kveðja,Sarah.----- Original Message -----From: llama_nomSent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 10:06 PMSubject: [norse_course] Re: Hmmmm this book by Anthony Faulkes (hooked o)
Patricia,
A lot of books/editions/texts spell both "hooked o" and <ø> as in
Modern Icelandic: <ö>. In certain words though, <ø> later became
<e>, and is so spelt in some editions of Old Norse texts too.
kømr > kemr "comes" (modern: kemur)
øfstr > efstr "highest, last"
gøra > gera "do"
søkkva > sökkva "sink"
hj(hooked-o)rr > hjörr
When texts that do make a difference between "hooked o" and <ø> are
transcribed and put on the internet, the "hooked o" is often
represented by <ö>, which seems logical, as this letter would
otherwise be sitting around doing nothing, so:
søkkva > sökkva "sink"
hjörr > hjörr
The letter <ø> is the result of u/w-mutation of earlier /e/. While
hooked-o is the u/w-mutation of earlier /a/. If that helps...
Similarly the ligature <oe> appears as <æ> in a lot of editions of
Old Norse texts, especially on the the internet, just as in the
modern language. Cleasby & Vigfusson spell both <æ>. Zoega
distinguishes them, but doesn't separate them alphabetically--which
is handy for looking up if you're not sure which it is.
Llæma Nöm
--- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah Bowen" <sarahbowen@...>
wrote:
> Hi Patricia,
>
> Yes, it doesn't seem to matter what software a computer uses -
none of us seem able to find the ON "o" with a little squiggle
underneath. Like you, I use ø instead when posting up passages from
Auðun.
>
> Kveðja,
> Sarah.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Patricia
> To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:19 AM
> Subject: [norse_course] Hmmmm this book by Anthony Faulkes
>
>
> EDDA - Skáldskaparmál and volume two which is the Glossary and
Index of names.
> my PC does the "strange little letters" like á ð etc, but in
this book here I have a little o with a wiggle underneath it
t'would be a cedilla maybe well PC don't do that, could I use ø
instead, or would it look daft, any advice gratefully received
> Patricia
> The character map has cedilla thingies for other letters wonder
why not the o
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