From: xigung
Message: 3124
Date: 2003-05-20
--- In norse course Sarah Bowen wrote:
> And now for the last few lines...
>
> Hann setr við holan lófann ok tekr svá við knútunni,
> þar fylgir leggrinn með...
> You got the meaning of this - one or two minor points...
The object in all clauses is in the
singular "lófann", "knútunni", "leggrinn".
> Also "við" can either be a preposition or an adverb depending on
the context. Here it is an adverb. According to Gordon´s glossary
as an adverb, "við" can be translated as either
> at this, thereupon, back, against, at it. "setr" can either be 'he
set, placed or put' so literally this can be translated as 'he set,
placed or put the hollow of his palm at it" i.e. he cupped his hand.
Jed, according to my lecture notes and the translations by Byock and
Jones, "setr við" is nothing more complicated than this.
> "Þar fylgir leggrinn með" implies the leg-bone was attached to the
knuckle-bone.
>
> Böðvarr sendi aptr knútuna ok setr á þann sem kastaði, ok rétt
framan í hann með svá harðri svipan at hann fekk bana.
> Interesting that you both have 'in his face' for "rétt framan". I
know in modern Icelandic "í framan" can refer to the face e.g. hann
var fölur í framan - he was pale/his face was pale, but here it is an
adverb meaning directly at (him). This concurs with Byock's and
Jones' translations - smack at him, into the man.
To move "straight ahead" would be something like "ganga
beint áfram", which is probably what they would say
about steering a straight course, but also about objects
that are thrown so hard that they move in a straight
line (in English "straight ahead").
Btw I think I took a look at Byocks translation a few
weeks ago, but I found it was a rather loose translation,
and hence not very useful if you are interested in
grammatical details.
Best,
Xigung
>
> Hope this is helpful. I'll post up the next section in a day or
so. If anyone else wants to join in, please feel free.
>
> Kveðja,
> Sarah.
>
> p.s. do you want feedback in such detail or is the grammatical
side rather off-putting? Let me know if I'm boring you!!
I think your comments make things a lot more interesting !