From: Bhrihskwobhloukstroy
Message: 70400
Date: 2012-11-02
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy
> <bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@...> wrote:
>>
>> > Basque onddo /onJo/ comes from "Cantabrian" Romance *Fongo (where
> /F/is
>> > a bilabial voiceless fricative) > Spanish hongo.
>> >
>> > I must insist that palatalization in onddo has *nothing* to do with
> the
>> > Romance one from [nn] or [nj], but it's related to some types of
>> > expressive palatalization. For example, Spanish rechoncho (from
> *choncho
>> > with contamination from redondo 'round'), Galician zoncho 'chubby'
> come
>> > from a palatalized form *conco ~ *tSontSo related to Spanish tonto,
>> > zonzo 'dumb, stupid'.
>> >
>> > By a similar process, a velar stop /k, g/ can become a palatal /c,
> J/,
>> > and eventually depalatalized as /t, d/. But /dj/ > /gj/ is also
>> > possible, as in txindil > txingil 'lentil' or sugandilla >
> sura(i)ngilla
>> > 'lizard'.
>>
>> We have had a sufficient number of discussions to realize that we
> adhere
>> to different epistemological frames, and this is reaffirmed by the
> present
>> case, where I was asking for a Sound Law, whil You look completely
>> satisfied with an explanation like " it's related to some types of
>> expressive palatalization"...
>>
> Actually, this is a *sound law* by which some consonants, e.g. /t, ts/
> get into the corresponding palatals /c, tS/. At the same time, I warned
> you against the confusion with other types of palatalization common in
> Romance.
>
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