Re: Kabardian antipassives

From: Torsten
Message: 67198
Date: 2011-02-26

> > > That's odd. I was just speculating on whether there was
> > > connection between PIE *h2-y-(w-) "life" and *gW-y-(w-) "life".
> > > Now it seems that *h2/*gW "equation" one way or the other
> > > repeats itself in Etruscan 'avils' "of age" and 'zivas' "lived".
> > >
> >
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/36632
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/36633
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/36637
> >
> > On that avil-, BTW
> > Orël & Stol'bova
> > Hamito-Semitic Etymological Dictionary
> >
> > '1255 *h.awil- "year"
> >
> > Semitic *h.awl- "year":
> > Arab h.awl-.
> >
> > West Chadic *h.awil- "year":
> > Fyer wel,
> > Sha wul,
> > Kir `awul,
> > DB wil.
> >
> > East Chadic *`aliy- < *h.ayil- "year":
> > Smr `aliya,
> > Kwn oleye,
> > Tum əlay
> > Ndam lowa,
> > Gbr ille,
> > Mig `ila.
> > Metathesis and change *-w- > *-y- before a front vowel.'
> >
> > FWIW. A 'Saharan' word originally?
>
> Or you have discovered that Etruscan belongs in Afro-Asiatic. All
> you need now are about 100 other comparanda.

Actually, since I see the gloss in AA, IE and Etruscan, I think it is a Wanderwort.


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2*ay- 'vivere' (< voridg.-sem. *H.-y-),
+ t- (< voridg. d-)
idg. ayt- in
gr. δί-αιτα 'Leben, Lebensart',
akymr. oet 'aetas',
idg. ayttu- >
air. āes 'aetas',
kymr. oes 'saeculum',
o-stufig oyt- in
gr. ο`ι~τος 'Geschick, unglückliches Geschick';
+ w- s. ayw-
(*ay- mit d-Präformativ (s. d.) in gr. δαίμων ?);

= semit. *H.-y-,
+ n- (dem idg. ayt- : oyt- parallele Bildung mit dem alten Wechsel n : d, s. SI. 77)
arab. Perf. H.āna 'its time came, calamitate tentatus est, periit',
II 'he appointed a time (-hu for him)',
IV '(God) caused him to die',
H.Ä«nun 'a space, period of time',
H.aynun 'calamitas, exitium, the time of the appointed term (of life), time of death' (dieses H.àyn- mit dem Wechsel n : d dem idg. oyt- in gr. ο`ι~τος genau entsprechend);
+ w- semit. H.-y-w- = idg. ayw-, s. d.


ayw- (< voridg-sem. H.-y-w- 'vivere' = *H.-y- + w-, s. 2ay-),
lat. *aevos 'vivus', wovon
aevitās > aetās, aevum 'Leben, Lebenszeit, Alter, Zeitalter, Zeit, Ewigkeit',
long-aevus, got. aiv.s 'α`ιών', ni aiv 'nie',
mit s-Präformativ got. saivala etc. 'vita, anima';
Ä"-stufig idg. (āyu- (s. KZ. 42, 190) in
sanskr. ājú- 'lebendig, beweglich', m. 'lebendes Wesen',
avest. āju- n. 'Lebensalter, Alter, Dauer';
+ n-
idg. aiw-n-,
gr. α`ιών 'Leben, Lebenszeit, lange Zeit, Ewigkeit',
Lok. α`ιήν
+ s- gr. *α`ιώς,
Akk. α`ιώ~,
Lok. α`ιεί,
sanskr. á:juš n. 'Leben, Lebensdauer';
+ idg. g- (ĝ- ?)
idg. ayug-,
got. in ajukduþ 'ε`ις τ`ον α`ιω~να'
ags. Ä"ce 'ewig',
idg. y-wg- in
lat. jūgis 'immerdauernd, (aqua, puteus, aquae fons) beständig fließend';

= semit. H.-y-w- 'leben',
Perf. äthiop. H.aywa
hebr. H.ayā
arab. H.ayya,
Adj. (yw > yy)
arab. H.ayyuN- 'living, having life, alive, quick, lively, (applied to God) deathless',
hebr. H.ay 'lebend, lebendig, frisch, (vom Wasser) fließend',
Plur. H.ayyīm 'Leben',
arab. H.ayyatuN 'res animata, serpens',
hebr. H.ayyā 'Tier, Leben, Seele',
arab. ta-H.iyyatuN 'continuance, endurance, everlasting existence', H.ayātun 'life',
H.ayawānun 'animal, res animata, res vivens, perennis, jugis aquae fons, vita',
H.aywānun 'vivens, animal'.'

> Etruscan <avil> 'year' can be understood as 'circuit, a going
> around'; cf. <avence> 'passed away' (i.e. 'died').

I think that was the sense of that Wanderwort. It must have travelled as part of astro-philosophical (or whatever one would call it) package

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/61752
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/61758
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/61763

> You should look for other AA nouns in *-il.

Yes that would demonstrate AA ancestry.


Torsten