From: tgpedersen
Message: 61320
Date: 2008-11-03
>Oh, I get it, you mean the *North Germanic* accent shift in
> Juutti/Juuti- is a perfectly regular loan from an old (eastern)
> norse form jut- where eu- has already (appr. a.d. 800) undergone
> the accent shift. There is nothing to suggest that it should be any
> older than 12-13th century when the Danish and Swedish crowns
> competed for supremacy in the Gulf of Finland. Off the southern
> coast of Finland there are two large islands sw. Ju:sarö <= fi.
> *Juutinsaari 'Isle of the Danes' and sw. Russarö <= *Rootsinsaari
> 'Isle of the Swedes'.
>
> The etnonym <juutti> 'Dane' is perfectly synonymous with the
> younger word <tanskalainen> 'Dane'. Juutti just sounds a bit
> archaic, perhaps dialectal or poetic. Most likely <Juutinrauma> is
> an autochtonous construction from the etnonym, that is 'the stream
> of the Danes'. It does not necessarily in my view presoppose an
> original **Jutstraum. In fact such a borrowing would contain a
> chronological paradox since the word rauma ~ stream must be
> borrowed from Proto-Norse before the loss of the stem -a whereas
> Juutti must be borrowed after the accent shifted in a.d. 800. Thus
> the name merely prooves that Finnish used the word <Juutti> for all
> the Danes (cf. <Saksa> for Germany).