From: david_russell_watson
Message: 59525
Date: 2008-07-11
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "kishore patnaik"
> <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > You are reading my mail out of context.
>
> The context doesn't change the sense of what you said one bit.
>
>
> > > I hope you will go back and read the entire thread.
>
> No need, I've already read it.
>
>
> > I am sure I have never intended to say that the entire group is
> > racits, leave alone the entire Europe.
>
> That's right, you said part of it was.
>
>
> > I do not know what sustained vested interests you have in
raking
> > up issues out of context.
>
> One of your telescoped, mutually contradictory statements again.
> My interest, sustained, vested or otherwise is to see to it that I
am
> not immolated and that the social group I belong to isn't either.
>
> The context bit I've already commented on.
>
> > What is your stand?
>
> On the ground, mostly.
>
> > Do you support racism?
>
> Mostly I think the concept should be abolished. It's fuzzy around
the
> edges and since everyone acts to some degree in his perceived group
> interest,
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vested_interest
> it is mostly impossible to defend oneself against an accusation of
> racism. But as long as it is permissible to use it, I want it to be
> applied consistently to all groups.
>
>
> > Do you think that Europeans or for that matter any subsection of
> > population of this planet are by default superior to any
> > subsection?
>
> Not morally superior, not a priori at least ('by default' as you
> omprecisely put it). In other respects, you can read more about it
here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve
>
> Then there are other more intangible factors, such as social
capital,
> which basically translates to trust between the members of the
> society, which in turn depends on the honesty of those members
towards
> each other.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_Alone
> According to some recent survey three in four Danes trust other
> people, in Brazil eg. it's less than one in twenty.
>
>
> > If so, why should that be??
>
> Some people have speculated that the cold climate forced people in
the
> north to cooperate and to trust each other, or perish. But nothing
is
> known for certain.
>
>
> Torsten
>