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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...>
wrote:
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Joao S. Lopes <josimo70@...>
>
> Portuguese/Spanish Gordo "fat" came from Latin gurdus, of obscure
origin, meaning "stupid, rude". Gurdus seems to be related to IE
*gWer- "heavy" (cf. guru, gravis, barys, brutus) but also to Greek
bradys (<*gWrdu ?)
>
> Comments?
> JS Lopes
> That's what I've read too. I've seen a lot of speculation that it's
from Celtic. I'd say, if not from Celtic, then possibly Lusitanian --
but do we know enough to tell which one? If so, where does the ending
come from?
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Celtic should have produced *bardo- from PIE *gwr.(H)do-. Lusitanian
is probably correct, with g- initially from PIE *gw- (medially I
would expect -gg-, since we have the goddess Iccona from *ek^wo-)
and -ur- from PIE *r. (as opposed to Celtic -ar-). The ending -do-/-
da:- was inherited from PIE; see Latin <forda> 'pregnant', Greek
<kládos> 'slip, shoot, young branch'.
DGK