Re: Gemination in Celtic

From: Anders R. Joergensen
Message: 56330
Date: 2008-03-30

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud"
<fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:
>
> > ========
> > No
> > Northern French je mak- "I eat"
> > impossible from masticare.
> > Arnaud
>
> Well, Norman French (and Picard?, I'm not sure) doesn't have
> palatalization of k+a, so if that is the origin of mak-, then no
> problem. *mastika:re > *masker > mak- (or similarly).
>
> =======
> Not all French dictionnaries agree on that.
> Arnaud

Strange, it seems pretty straigthforward. What's the infinitive?

> ==========
> What about
> lakk- "lax, soft"
> lag-aros

Isn't this OIr. lac `weak, feeble' once again? This had /g/ and was
thus not relevant.

Or is this another word?

>
> Celte rukk- "piece of cloth"

What word(s) are you referring to? W rhuchen?

>
> O.irl Stuc "hill"
>
> O.irl stu:c "angered face"
> Lit stug-ti

I'm a bit lost here. I can't identify the OIr. words you refer to.
Furthermore, initial st- is generally not inherited in Irish (PCelt.
*st- gives OIr. s-).

>
> brecc- "speckled"

Yes, along with W brych/brech etc., this points to PCelt *brikko-.
However, what is the relevance to the present discussion?

As to possible counter-examples, one can think of W cawdd `anger',
Bret. keuz `regret', MBret. queuz, all from PCelt. *ka:d- (possibly a
neuter s-stem and thus formally = Gr. ke:dos). Anyway, a derivation
from PIE *k^ah2d- seems most straightforward.

W hawdd `easy, happy', MCorn. hueth `glad, joyful' may also be
relevant, if it is the `sweet'-word. Then from PCelt. *swa:du- <
*swah2du-, but the laryngeal isn't completely secured.

OIr. saigid, -saig `searches for' etc. < PCelt. *sag-ye/o- is usually
derived from *s&g(^)- from the root *sah2g(^)- (sa:gio:, sokjan,
etc.).

Anders