Re: Volcae and Volsci

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:

>
> At 2:26:46 PM on Saturday, March 29, 2008, tgpedersen wrote:
>
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott"
> > <BMScott@> wrote:
>
> >> At 11:25:43 AM on Saturday, March 29, 2008, Miguel
> >> Carrasquer Vidal wrote:
>
> >> [...]
>
> >>> Sounds shifts can and have spread across dialects, and
> >>> even across completely different languages (the cause
> >>> célèbre being the spread of uvular [R] across large
> >>> parts of Europe).
>
> >> Or preaspiration spreading from Scand. to Sc.Gael. and
> >> Saami.
>
> > No, what you want to do is present an example which can't
> > have been caused by a substrate.
>
> In your world I doubt that there is such a thing. Even in
> my world it would, I think, be very difficult to find such a
> thing. That's why your extreme reliance on substrates, like
> your reliance on invisible underclasses, is methodologically
> unsound.

I always relate underclasses to to substrates and therefore to
previous conquests and they consequently becomes yet another
touchstone which my claim has to be tested on. You might think that
disregarding history and archaeology to obtain a clean science of
linguistics is methodologically unsound; it isn't to people like me
who is more interested in wie es eigentlich gewesen: you are the one
who is warping the science of linguistics, not me. How would you
explain all the early English names in P-, eg., if you disregard NWBlock?


Torsten