Re: PIE *a -- a preliminary checklist

The two words are semantically distinguishable, even today. 'kalja'
is an artesanal home made (weak) beer. 'olut' is a beer made from raw
materials and by techniques learned from iron age foreigners.

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@>
wrote:
> >
> > Thanx for your patience.
> > I have an added conundrum for your consideration:
> >
> > http://koti.welho.com/jschalin/lexicon.htm
> >
> > ashes
> > Fi. kaski 'burnt-over clearing'
> > < PreF *kaski / *kaśki
> >
> > (see) Sw.aska 'ashes' < Gmc. *askōn 'ashes'
> > < ↑ PIE/PreG *ħæsk'-
> >
> >
> > This individual is comparing Finnish kaski to Gmc
> > *askon
> > Is s/he on the the right track?
> > If so, was there a stage when Gmc had laryngeals? Or
> > was Uralic in contact with an IE language with
> > laryngeals?
> >
>
> cf his prefacve
> http://koti.welho.com/jschalin/index.htm
>
> I think this etymology was first proposed by Koivulehto in
Koivulehto,
> Jorma: Uralische Evidenz für die Laryngaltheorie. Whether he
proposed
> that the words were loaned from an IE dialect with preserved
> laryngeals or even from a prestage with velar preforms of the
> laryngeals I don't recall. AFAIK those etymologies are considered
> mainstream.
>
> BTW, interestingly, he has
> http://koti.welho.com/jschalin/lexicon.htm
> both Fi. kalja "weak beer" and Fi. olut "beer" corresponding to the
> PIE "ale" word. Now the latter is an areal word, covering Germanic,
> Baltic, Baltic Finnic and Slavic, it seems it must have belonged to
> some erased culture of the area. So did the older loan survive two
> invasions?
>
>
> Torsten
>