Res: Re[2]: Res: Res: Res: [tied] Re: Etimology of Hellene / Amerigo

Aleramo < *alTa-hraBnaz or *aTala-hraBnaz is tempting, since name Aleardo was analyzed as *Ala-harTu- or *aTala-harTu-, and name Beltramo < *berxta-hraBnaz.
"All Raven", or "Noble Raven", or "Old Raven".

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De: Francisco Antonio Doria <doriagen@...>
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Enviadas: Terça-feira, 4 de Dezembro de 2007 7:48:13
Assunto: Re: Re[2]: Res: Res: Res: [tied] Re: Etimology of Hellene / Amerigo, Laudomia

Riccomanno is probably the Italian rendition of something like Reichmann, in mhd. I wasn't aware that it is documented in France in the 9th century; txs for the input.

"Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@... net> escreveu:

At 4:34:20 PM on Monday, December 3, 2007, Rick McCallister
wrote:

> But I do like your derivation [of <Amerigo>] from haim-rix

That derivation of <Amerigo> from *haima-ri:kjaz is
standard.

<Aleramo> is from some Gmc. name in *-hraBnaz, but it's not
clear whether the first element was *aþala-, *ala-, *alda-,
or a conflation of more than one of these.

I've seen a suggestion that <Gugliarello> is from <guglia>
'needle; spire; pinnacle'.

<Riccomanno> is Gmc., from *ri:kja-mannz; as <Rihman> it's
found in France by 835. Quite possibly it was reinforced by
the use of the 'nome augurale' <Ricco>, though.

Brian

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