Some people around here are against my proposal for
*kwer,
but if we accept the idea that *kwr-s- is a root,
akin to *perkw (from kwer-kw-)
and is a word of indo-european origin
(Cognates in Sanscrit partaka karibha
etc)
Then
it may have been either kept by Celts and ITaliots
(which is natural)
and it may have been borrowed by people inhabiting
western Europe
when Indo-Europeans started intruding and
conquering the place.
Hence
We have to expect various treatments of *kwr-s and
*perkw
1. Standard treatments according to P-celts and
kw-Celts, LAtin, etc
2. "Odd" treatments, that in my opinion, arise
because of a chain of borrowings
Indo-european > non-indo-european western
european > reborrowing into LAte LAtin and Old French.
Cassanos can't be "good" Gaulish (Paris is
!)
but it can be a good borrowing,
later reborrowed.
My next point is I am quite amazed to see that some
of you deal with "Gauls",
as though Celts had arrived in the territory of
modern France like it was a desert
before they arrived.
It is quite obvious that the territory was already
inhabited.
And French (standard or dialectal) is full of odd
words.
The mingling between Celt intruders and previous inhabitants probably took a lot of
time
I mean not until LAtin became the only language
spoken around the year +400.
I consider the misinterpretation arises from the
fact that this word "GAulish" mixes everything
This word describes nothing clear : you never know
if this is a "Celt" Gaul or a non-i.e GAul.
The ethnolinguistic picture from -1000 to + 400
must have been very complicated in France
Just like it is in Italy during the same
period.
It is like dealing with Etruscan and Picenian and
all others like "standard" Italiots.
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Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: Fw:
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--- In cybalist@... s.com,
"fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@ ...>
wrote:
>
> The
rook *kwr- for "oak" also exists in LAtin :
> Cassanos may be from
assimiled kwrs > kwss- > kass-
> if one accepts : kw- > ka- as
in canis
Are you saying this occurs in Gaulish?
> All these
words share an (obvious) connection, even though it is not
(yet) received
theory.
I'd say Cassano- is more likely connected with Greek
kástanos
'chestnut tree', etc.