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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "ehlsmith" <ehlsmith@...> wrote:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
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> > This doesn't look good for Maeonian being of the Etruscan family,
> > as Beekes wants it to be. ..............
>
> Beekes does not claim Maeonian belonged to the Etruscan family, he
> claims that Etruscan was a remnant language located in the same area
> of Anatolia as was Maeonian(later Lydian)before being displaced by
> Phrygian invasions.
>
He doesn't mention the language of the Maeonians at all,
unfortunately, but he says this:
"
Another consideration is that in the tradition on the origin of the
Etruscans it is stated that the Lydian people were divided in two
parts, one being that of the later Etruscans, the other, under the
king's son Lydos changing their name (from `Maeonians') into
`Lydians'. This fact is repeated several times, e.g. Hdt. 7, 74: `The
Lydians were earlier called Maeonians, but after Lydos the son of Atys
they got their [present] name, changing their name.'
"
It is strange that they should have been divided by language, so that
Etruscan becomes the language of the emigrés and Lydian the language
of the stay-at-homes. One would expect that to be reflected in
historical accounts.
But also note:
"
8. Loanwords. As to the language, Steinbauer (i999, 367) observes that
Etruscan shows most connections (loanwords) with Lydian and concludes
(p. 389): `Unbezweifelbar steht somit wenigstens die kleinasiatische
Herkunft der etruskischen Sprache fest.'
"
which means that even an indubitable IE word might also have been
Maeionian, cf for a parallel
"
... finds the equation confirmed by the statement of Xanthos the
Lydian ... that the language of the Mysians was `half-Lydian, half-
Phrygian'
".
Torsten