Re: Etymology of Rome

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Francesco Brighenti" <frabrig@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
> > > <akonushevci@> wrote:
> > >
> > 3. > and subsequently Tiberis after its Etruscan name)
> >
> > I doubt that Tiberis is an Etruscan name :
> >
> > a) We have as cognate in Dacia: Tibisia/Tibiscum/Tibissus >
> Today
> > Romanian Timish (<*Timbisya < *Timisya ) (see Timishoara) (
> remember
> > also other Dacian river names in -sya :*Ardzyesya, *Auresya,
> > *Ma:risya, *Krisya, *Sa:mwesya, *Patitsya etc...)
> >
> > b) Note that PIE -bH- > Latin -b- so Lat. Tiberis, Dac.

*Tibisia

> <
> > *tibH- are both regulars
> >
> > PIE -bH- > Latin -b-: Latin nebula < PIE *nebH-eleh2
> >
> > So the PIE *tibH- is possible both for Dacian river name as
> for
> > the Latin name
> >
> > Marius
> ***************
> I don't know how one does derives Timish from Tibisia or Tibiscum

or

> Tibissus through supposed form *Timbisya. Have you other example?

Or

> you just like to be attractive in reconstruction and speculation?
> It seems that you have never read a book on Thracian or Illyrian:
> Abantia ~ Amantia, Albena ~ Almene, Bardylis ~ Mardylis seems very
> simple b > m change. Or, take a look on Katichich's book (page

144),

> where you will found: Tibiskos ~ Timisis, Abydon ~ Amydon, Andrabus
> ~ Adramus, Bargos ~ Margos, Basteira ~ Masteira, Bendis ~ Mendis,
> Bouzeos ~ Mousaios, Doberos ~ Domerus, Serbolia ~ Sermulia.
>
> Konushevci
>

Abdullah, before to quote for me (thanks in anyway), better to know
first: that Tibisia is not *Tibisia is REALLY attested as TIBISIA at
Iordanes (where MARISIA, CRISIA are attested too etc...)

So your question above 'reconstruction and speculation'? doesn't have
ANY SENSE...TIBISIA is really attested!

Next: Latin Tiberis < *Tibesis and Dacian Tibisia are 'almost the
same word'...

Marius

P.S. : In this conditions to say (it wasn't you) that 'Tiberis is an
Etruscan name' is a non-sense.