Re: [tied] Re: Estonian Swedish

At 4:35:34 PM on Friday, December 29, 2006, tgpedersen
wrote:

[...]

>>> To my knowledge no other Swedish dialect was
>>> unpalatalized.

>> Yes. Svealand and Norrland from the 19th century. Or
>> rather, the Lautgesetz of palatalization is no longer
>> valid in that area, as shown by loans like "kilogram"
>> with a hard k, but with palatalized /tj/ in Götaland,
>> including Scania. The same for "kex": /keks/ and /tjeks/
>> respectively.

[...]

>> Torsten might also add ´"kisse" (Scania "ki:se"),
>> pussycat with a hard /k/. My answer is that this is due
>> to it coming from an interjection "kiss, kiss!" when
>> calling a cat. Interjections tend to fall out of norms.

[...]

> Torsten might also note that this proves that
> palatalization had stopped in those dialects by that time,
> and that it had run its course there, as in all other
> Swedish dialects.

Except that <kisse> [ki:se] is older than <kex> /tjeks/.

Brian