Re: [tied] Re: *H2kous- ‘to hear, feel’

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 41184
Date: 2005-10-09

On 10/9/05, Jens Elmegård Rasmussen <jer@...> wrote:
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@...> wrote:
>
> *H2kous-n-yo > *kas-n-yo (*H2 attested only in Greek; *ou >
Alb. /a/)>
> *ka:njo (loss of /s/ cause the lengthening of preceding vowel *–
asn- > -
> a:n-) > *konj (*a: > Alb. /o/), later prefixed form n- (<*H1en) +
konj
> > ngonj `I hear'.
> (cf. Eng. to hear, Gr. akuein `id.', Serb-Croat. <c^uti> `to
hear').
> Geg form seems to be regular, as phonetically, as semantically
> speaking, but problematic is Tosk form <dëgjoj> `I hear', derived
from
> prefixed form dë-koj, that, according to Barich is akin to
> Greek "akuein".
> I wonder if also Alb. <shqisë> `sense' is also derive from *sku:d-
ya
> (cf. Serb-Croat <c^ulo> `id.').
>
> Any help?

The verb is a borrowing from Latin intelligo. Gustav Meyer has it
already (Etym.Wb., 1891), mentioning dialect forms containing 
material lost in the modern standard forms, such as dëlgónj from
Greece and Southern Italy. Buzuk spells <endiglogn->.

Jens
************
 
Dear Jens,
 
Thanks a lot for your feedback. I guess that as Barich, as well as mia parvitas, are aware for Meyer's etymology. With due respect to all predcessors, I think and I find more plausible my etymology, suggested also by Barich.
But, lets see what Meyer have written: "digjonj, dëgjonj", geg. auch <ndëgjoj nigjoj>, in Fieri <ngjonj, ndërgjonj> Mitk. Alb. B. 169, gr. <dëlgjonj> (Poros), cal. <dëlgjonj> (Greci) <diligjonj> (Barile), sic. <dëlgonj, ndëlgonj> (Pal. Adriano), <glëgonj> (Contessa) 'höre, gehorche'. Aus lat. intelligere. Das it. und gr. Alb. hat die altesten Formen bewahrt. <ndëlgim> ist sic. Pitre 290 'intellegenza'; auch im Matth. 15, 17 von Frascineto übersetzt <ndëlgonj> gradezu 'intellegere'. <ngjonj> ist nach Doz. 'entendre' und 'écouter'. Vgl. <intendere> für 'hören'. Aus der 1. Sing. Praet. <intelligo> staumt, mit Assimilierung des Anlauts an das inlautende /gj/ aus /gl/ (füur -lg), <gjegjenj, gjegjin> cal. 'höre' (Aor. <hörte> S. Caterina Pap. 668), <gjegjun> geg. 'gehört'; Pass. <gjegjem> 'höre, gehorche', als Antowrt auf den Namensanruf 'hier!' <përgjegjem> 'antworde, erwidere'. (Meyer, EW, pp. 66-67).
Lets see also what Orel have written too: <dëgjoj, aor. dëgjova>. Dialectal forms <ndëgoj> and, particulary, <dëlgonj, diligonj> reflect the obvious Latin source - intellegere 'to percieve' (Meyer, Wb. 66-67). Meyer-Lübke Gr. Grundriss I 1054; Barich ARSt 33-34 (related to Gk akouo 'to hear', Goth. hausjan 'id.'); Çabej Etim. III 217-218. (Orel, AED, 62).
First, to be taken as a true etymology Meyer's one, we may have other examples where Latin long /e:/, followed by liquid /r/ have yielded Alb. <-onj> (cf. Alb. <vyej> 'to be worth> from Lat. <vale:re>, so long /e:/ followed by liquid is regularly diphthonged.
Second, supposed metathesis l - g > g - l must also be proven, as well as in infinitive form <intelligere> as wel as present <intelligo>.
Third, instead of all these nonsenses, where do you see defficulty of Alb. <ngoj> to be derived from *H2kous-n-yo, attested as well in Arbëresh (see Meyer above) and Tosk variant as regular hypercorrection of Geg form.
 
Konushevci

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