From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 38171
Date: 2005-05-30
----- Original Message -----From: Patrick RyanSent: Monday, May 30, 2005 12:51 AMSubject: Re: [tied] IE *de:(y)- 'bind'.----- Original Message -----From: Patrick RyanSent: Wednesday, May 29, 2005Subject: Re: CVC Punctual Roots.Recently, the question of whether PIE *CVC roots are inherently punctual was raised on a discussion list.
I proposed that any PIE *CVC-root that did not terminate in *-H, *-y, or *-w was inherently punctual; this idea was ridiculed by one of the list participants, who made counts to test this proposition, and announced that the proposition could not be substantiated.
I have now obtained the same reference work from which he was working (Lexikon der indogermanischen Verben, Helmut Rix, Wiesbaden 2001, Dr. Ludwig Reichert Verlag: ISBN 3-89500219-4).
I have randomly selected an initial consonant, *d, in the entries under which to make a count to test the results that my critic reported.
To begin with, there are _3_ *CVC verbal roots that do not terminate in *-H, *-y, or *-w, listed under *d in Rix 2001 out of a total of _46_ roots.
This suggests that the statistics compiled by my critic were inaccurate as to the number of *CVC roots counted by him.
Of these three, the first, *dek^-, become aware of, forms a root aorist: *dék-, but a present in *dé:k^-, with unetymological lengthening of the root vowel.
The second, *der-, tear apart, forms a root aorist: *dér-, but a present by thematicization: *dér-e-.
The third, *des-, find, has no aorist listed but the present is formed by a suffix: *d^s-sk^é-.
Thus, in all three examples, the aorist, when attested, is formed from the root, indicating a punctual meaning for the bare *CVC root.
In all three examples, the present is formed by additions to the root, indicating that, in order to obtain a durative meaning, lengthened grade, thematicization, or a suffix (*-sk^e-) is necessary.
On the basis of the roots listed under *d in Rix, the proposition that any PIE *CVC-root that did not terminate in *-H, *-y, or *-w was _inherently punctual_, is supported.
***Patrick writes:I have now completed a survey of Rix through *gh-.Out of 26 qualifying roots, of those which formed aorists, all but one formed root aorists.A short paper is available at: http://www.geocities.com/proto-language/PIE-CVC-PunctualRoots.htmPatrick***