[tied] Re: Metathesis of liquids

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

> tolgs001 wrote:
> >> I bielive that true counterpart of Romanian <pleca> 'to break
> >> out, to bend' is metathetic variant of Alb. verb <pëlkej> 'to
> >> bend, to hurt leg, hand during the falling', probably prefixed
> >> form of Alb. <pë.lak> of <lak> 'loop, bend, arch', pl. <leqe>.
> >>
> >> Konushevci
> >
> > Whatever the etymology might be (the official Rumanian one is
> > Lat. <plicare>), Rum. <a pleca, plecare> means "to go away,
> > depart, leave for; descend, lower, vouchsafe..." along with
> > all related meanings (e.g. such connotations as in "buzz off").
> >
> > It also means, esp. when prefixed <apleca, aplecare>, "to bow,
> > incline" as well as (in the reflexive, with <se>) "to get
> > nausea, be sick" (on the verge of throwing up).
> >
> > Methinks, a bit too different from the Alb. lexems you
> > mention.
> >
> > rgds,
> > George
>
> I feel hard to accept a such metathetic form in Rom as well since

the

> metathesis is as well as not found in Rom and no Alb. word is

present with

> the metathetic form in Rom.
> Beside of this there is the Germanic family of "fliehen", "to

flee". The

> problem of these Germanic words is Gothic.. I guess because of

Gothic was

> reconstructed an *thleukhanan. It may be the PGmc have had an *thl-

there

> but for Rom. there is for sure an "p" there.
> What I find very curious beside the semantism of "fliehen, to flee"

and Rom.

> "pleca" is the Germanic "flehen" , MHD " vle:hen", which may be

conected

> with Rom. "îndu-pleca" from the semantic point of view. The bad

thing about,

> without Germanic family , there is no other IE cognate for this

family of

> words.
>
> Alex

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I gues that Alb. <lak> 'loop, bend, arch, bow' is indeed derived from
metathetic variant of o-grade form of PIE *lokW-o- 'to revolve' (see
*kWel-).
And, Romanian form <pleca> or <apleca> isn't metathetic variant, but
Alb. one is <pëlkej>, by all means, from <plekenj>.

Konushevci