[tied] Re: Nominative Loss. A strengthened theory?

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "elmeras2000" <jer@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham"
> <richard.wordingham@...> wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "elmeras2000" <jer@...> wrote:
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, enlil@... wrote:
> >
> > > 2. contradicts 1. If *yo (your horrible "*ya", presumably
> written
> > > this way to patch over the lethal flaw of the final vowel)
> >
> > Condemn Glen for his true errors. If I remember correctly,

Glen's

> > understanding of the development of PIE has developments *& >

PIE

> *e
> > and *a > PIE *o. *& also has conditioned developments. The

only

> > ulterior motive in '*ya' might be a desire to confuse, but I

doubt

> > he has such a motive.
>
> It is a true error to posit *-o under any guise, including "*-a",
> for what the thematic vowels demand is *-e (Glen's "-&") when word-
> final. That is effectively being concealed, intentionally or not,

if

> the vowel is written "-a".

Not using the standard spelling can certainly go on his charge
street.

> > "The wolf is the owner of which, the eye", i.e. in English

syntax,

> > "The eye which the wolf is the owner of".
> >
> > Maybe the 'owner of' morpheme (which I wrote as 'OWN-' last

night)

> > is not quite zero.

> But that is not what the man said. He is using a locative and

keeps

> insisting on it. And the locative is simply left out in the new
> rendition of the intended meaning. Well, then it was not a
> locative.

I don't think so either, but I'm not sure. The nearest English
equivalent to a construct is, for body parts, locative:

'I'm aching in the left shoulder.' = 'My left shoulder is aching.'
'The bee stung me on the cheek.'= 'The bee stung my check.'

If you look at these as equivalents of the construct, then we do
have locatives functioning as constructs. It's very confusing that
locative expressions seem able to function as both construct and
genitive, but I've seen a plausible claim that English 'of' can act
as a construct equivalent as well as a genitive equivalent.

> "The owner of which" would be the genitive of the relative
> pronoun which has not been brought into this yet.

No, it would be an 'antigenitive', a construct state.

Richard.