Re: [tied] Re: Albanian Names

From: alex
Message: 26813
Date: 2003-11-02

Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
> Since several webpage authors deliberately spell "King Bardhyl(us)" à
> l'albanaise (and "explain" it romantically as 'White Star' or the
> like), I'd like to remind the list that the historical Bardu:lis
> [sic!] ruled Illyria, and his name could be considered
> "Daco-Thracian" only if it could be shown that Dacian, Thracian and
> Illyrian were the same damn thing. No ancient author provides a gloss
> for the name, so a connection with Alb. bardhë is motivated primarily
> by wishful thinking. Bardu:lis could be etymologised in other ways,
> more in accordance with the IE onomastic tendencies, e.g. as 'having
> a (small) beard' from *bHardH- (cf. Barbula as a Latin cognomen).
>
> Piotr


I pay more credit here to the ancient writers. I guess it should be
enough to say Ilirian and Thracian/Dacian was not the same thing. The
Ilirians have not been mentionated as speakting the same language as the
Thracians _and_ the Dacians.
Theyir common lexic should be partly from prehistory; since in the
common Alb. Rom. lexic cannot help allways, one must assume there can be
remnants of neolitic cultures.
How we can try to explain for instance trough IE Alb. "bukurë"( beauty)
and Rom. "bucura"= joy ?

Alex