Re: [tied] Re: Albanian Names

02-11-03 13:37, m_iacomi wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" wrote:
>> Pre-latin Daco-Thraco Male Names :
>> -----------------------------------
>> 01. Aziz
>> 02. Bardhi
>> 03. Bardhyl
>>
>> And I took with caution ONLY the ones for which we can make direct
>> associations with pre-latin daco-thraco names.
>
> I assume you had some criteria to emphatically call these names
> "Daco-Thracian" (especially when speaking about "caution"), but
> there is little indication about which are those criteria. Out of
> derivatives of "(i) bardhë" `white` (having its' correspondent in
> Romanian "bardz(u)" `id.`) and "bukuri-a" `beauty` (corresponding
> to Romanian "bucurie" `joy'), I fail to see the faintest indication
> for their supposed Northern Thracian ancestry. Have you discovered
> meanwhile some Dacian glosses supporting your claim?

Since several webpage authors deliberately spell "King Bardhyl(us)" à
l'albanaise (and "explain" it romantically as 'White Star' or the like),
I'd like to remind the list that the historical Bardu:lis [sic!] ruled
Illyria, and his name could be considered "Daco-Thracian" only if it
could be shown that Dacian, Thracian and Illyrian were the same damn
thing. No ancient author provides a gloss for the name, so a connection
with Alb. bardhë is motivated primarily by wishful thinking. Bardu:lis
could be etymologised in other ways, more in accordance with the IE
onomastic tendencies, e.g. as 'having a (small) beard' from *bHardH-
(cf. Barbula as a Latin cognomen).

Piotr