Re: Dolichophallic "Aryans" (was Indo-European for Indo-Europeans)

From: wtsdv
Message: 25472
Date: 2003-09-02

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
> --- Glen Gordon <glengordon01@...> wrote:
> >
> > You should check out the population that frequents
> > the local gay bar I work at.
> > . . .
>
> *****I wonder if the PIE groups had sanctions and
> regulations akin to Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13*****

For those who don't have a bible on hand, Leviticus
18:22 is "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with
womankind: it is abomination.", and Leviticus 20:13
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have commited an abomination:
they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall
be upon them.".

I've often wondered the same thing, or at least what
is the earliest evidence of such thinking in an Indo-
European language. The only instance I personally
know of is that from the Vendidad, fargard 8 where it
says "O Maker of the material world, thou Holy One!
If a man, by force, commits the unnatural sin [sodomy],
what is the penalty that he shall pay? Ahura Mazda
answered: 'Eight hundred stripes with the Aspahe-astra,
eight hundred stripes with the Sraosho-charana.' O
Maker of the material world, thou Holy One! If a man
voluntarily commits the unnatural sin, what is the
penalty for it? What is the atonement for it? What
is the cleansing from it? Ahura Mazda answered: 'For
that deed there is nothing that can pay, nothing that
can atone, nothing that can cleanse from it; it is a
trespass for which there is no atonement, for ever and
ever.'". Does anybody know of anything earlier than
this? I've never heard of anything comparable in the
Vedas. In any case, since Christianity and post-exilic
Judaism are based largely on Zoroastrianism, I think
we can see the original source of Judeo-Christian
homophobia here.

David