From: Brian M. Scott
Message: 24602
Date: 2003-07-16
> o-stems:Richard von Kienle, _Historische Laut- und Formenlehre des
> PIE PGmc
> Acc. *-om *-aN
> n. *-om *-aN
> Runic -a, ENWGmc. -0. P. Ramat suggests that the famous
> inscription "ek hlewagastiz holtijaz horna tawido" is
> perhaps better translated as "I Hlewagastiz [son] of Holt
> made [these] two horns", but I don't know if that is meant
> as a suggestion that *-aN had perhaps already been reduced
> to -0 in Runic, or as a suggestion that perhaps the dual
> was still alive in Germanic at that early stage. In any
> case, he reconstructs PGmc. *-aN.
> Gen. *-osyo *-asaKienle is more or less of your opinion, except that his PIE
> Runic -as, OE (West-Saxon) -æs > -es, OS -as. Gothic -is
> comes from the pronominal ending *-esyo > *-esa. Loewe
> suggests that OS -es and OHG -es cannot come directly from
> *-esa, which would have given *-is (*e > *i when
> unstressed), and represent contamination between -as and
> -is, but I very much doubt that. I think *e before *a
> simply gives /e/, even in unstressed position. Any more
> recent suggestions?
> Dat. *-o:i *-aiKienle takes North and West Gmc. -e to be from the Dat. and
> Loc. *-oi *-ai
> North and West Germanic -e could come from either Dat. or
> Loc. Gothic -a cannot come from either (we'd expect -ai),
> so it's a instrumental.
> pl.Kienle doesn't mention OE -as but gets all the rest from
> The nominative in *-oi is unattested in Germanic. PIE
> *-o:s would have given PGmc. *-o:z, which explains Goth
> -o:s and ON -ar, but not OE -as, OS -os. The
> reconstruction is thus:
> PIE *-ó:ses *-o:siz
> *'-o:ses *-o:ziz
> which explains all the forms (Goth. -o:ss > -o:s, ON
> *-o:ziz > -arr > -ar, OE/OS *-o:siz > *-as). OHG -a is
> the acc. form.
> The Dat/Abl. was PIE *-oios, *-oibhios or *-obhios, Ins.Kienle would derive the lot from PGmc. *-amiz. He first
> *-o:is. In pre-Germanic, the Ins. was probably regularized
> to *-obhis > *-amiz and merged with *-obhios > *-amjaz to
> *-amiz (Goth. -am). ON and OE have -om and -um
> respectively as they have in all declensions, OS and OHG
> have -um. I'm not sure about ON -om, but -um seems
> derivable from n-stem -n.-bhi(o)s and u-stem -u-bhi(o)s,
> replacing o-stem *-am(iz).