Re: [tied] Ukrainian words from Carpathians

Abdullah Konushevci wrote:

> ************
> Because the question was addressed to Gasiarowski, I like to answer
> only in two or three words
> As far as I remember, there are also place name Beskides and there
> are all chances to be explained only through Alb. appellative
> bjeshkë 'summer mountain pasture'. About pllaja 'grassy upland, high
> plateau' I don't agree with above explanation, even it's common for
> many authors.

me too.

> As first, suffix -ajë, -a is common in Alb. (cf. bisht-
> ajë, dushk-ajë, mërr-ajë, gërdh-ajë, lisn-ajë, grun-ajë, etc.), so
> the root or stem is pll-, probabely reduced form of Alb. pyll-ajë >
> p&ll- + -ajë > pllajë. Furhtermore, this word is commonly used in
> synonymic pair nëpër pllaja e kodrina 'through the woods and
> hillocks'

This is not just an Alb. suffix but Rom. too. I guess this is an ancient
suffix which initialy have had the form /ae/ for masculine and /aea/ for
feminie.

> I hope that all will agree that Alb. vatra/votra < *a:ter was
> borrowed in Serbo-Croatian, Rumanian, etc., for only in Alb. the
> initial *a: and o* is turned in vo-/va- (cf. also vaj/voj < Lat.
> oleum, i varfër/i vorfun < Lat. orphanus)
>
> Konushevci
> Posted for the second time after 15 minutes (!), unchanged
>

you mean the radical for "vatra" should be "*a:ter"? Which are other IE
cognates?