Re: [tied] Ukrainian words from Carpathians

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex_lycos" <altamix@...> wrote:

> Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
>
> > ************
> > Because the question was addressed to Gasiarowski, I like to

answer

> > only in two or three words
> > As far as I remember, there are also place name Beskides and there
> > are all chances to be explained only through Alb. appellative
> > bjeshkë 'summer mountain pasture'. About pllaja 'grassy upland,

high

> > plateau' I don't agree with above explanation, even it's common

for

> > many authors.
>
> me too.
>
> > As first, suffix -ajë, -a is common in Alb. (cf. bisht-
> > ajë, dushk-ajë, mërr-ajë, gërdh-ajë, lisn-ajë, grun-ajë, etc.), so
> > the root or stem is pll-, probabely reduced form of Alb. pyll-ajë
>
> > p&ll- + -ajë > pllajë. Furhtermore, this word is commonly used in
> > synonymic pair nëpër pllaja e kodrina 'through the woods and
> > hillocks'
>
> This is not just an Alb. suffix but Rom. too. I guess this is an

ancient

> suffix which initialy have had the form /ae/ for masculine

and /aea/ for

> feminie.
>
> > I hope that all will agree that Alb. vatra/votra < *a:ter was
> > borrowed in Serbo-Croatian, Rumanian, etc., for only in Alb. the
> > initial *a: and o* is turned in vo-/va- (cf. also vaj/voj < Lat.
> > oleum, i varfër/i vorfun < Lat. orphanus)
> >
> > Konushevci
> > Posted for the second time after 15 minutes (!), unchanged
> >
> you mean the radical for "vatra" should be "*a:ter"? Which are

other IE

> cognates?

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Other cognates are: Latin atrium, atrocius<*atro-+ hkW- 'black-
looking', Old Persian *atar, attested in Açiya:diya 'month of fire-
worship' and probabely Sanskrit Atharva-Veda.

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