george knysh wrote:
> --- alex_lycos <altamix@...> wrote:
>> The most illogical thing here is the very short time
>> of Roman ocupation
>> North of Danube versus " romanian did not innovated
>> due missing conntact
>> with the Roman World begining with the 3 century
>> AC-> this imply
>> Romanians NORTH OF DANUBE)
>
> *****GK: After the Roman abandonment of Dacia, the
> territory north of the Danube was dominated for
> centuries by Germanic (esp. Gothic) populations,
> Transylvania included. We know that contiguity between
> Germanics and Slavs resulted in the latter adopting a
> fair number of words from the former. Is there any
> evidence for something of the sort in Romanian?*****
george knysh wrote:
> --- alex_lycos <altamix@...> wrote:
>> The most illogical thing here is the very short time
>> of Roman ocupation
>> North of Danube versus " romanian did not innovated
>> due missing conntact
>> with the Roman World begining with the 3 century
>> AC-> this imply
>> Romanians NORTH OF DANUBE)
>
> *****GK: After the Roman abandonment of Dacia, the
> territory north of the Danube was dominated for
> centuries by Germanic (esp. Gothic) populations,
> Transylvania included. We know that contiguity between
> Germanics and Slavs resulted in the latter adopting a
> fair number of words from the former. Is there any
> evidence for something of the sort in Romanian?*****
I guess there are some of them.
înnoi ( ana-nojan), înhaita ( ana-haitan)etc. I did not compilled a list
of this, it is working in progress.
Question: do you have any information about the life of vlah communities
in south slavic environment and the intermingling of them with other
folks? Or regardign the North of Danube, specially in Transilvania, do
you have any information of "late" way of life of valahians with the
germanics , hungarian in Transylvania? You will get very valuable infos
about this question of you reading about this topic. I will recommand
you the work of Johan Filstich "Tentamen Historiae Vallachicae". You
will understand maybe better his words:
" they ( germans ) lived separated by valahians , every folk keeping its
language and traditions and they did not mixed together..."
It will confirm the words of Pushcariu about aromanians, where he
mentions that in the XVIII century the aromanian women have been
monolingual and they did not knew an another language beside Romanian
even if they lived in Slavic or Greek or Albanian theritory.
One over another, Romanian was the "lingua franca" in all this region
without having any statal structure, comming from itself or maybe from
the status of "language of the majority"?
I have no idea why germans & slavs intermingled. I don't have too any
idea why the romanians and other nations did not intermingled in the
earlier time on a wide scala. I have no idea why even nowadays the
aromanians accept very hard an another man/woman in their family if this
one is not an aromanian. Maybe you wont belive it, but even if the one
is a dacoromanian , this one will be accepted with difficulity in a
aromanian family.
The life is otherway as a game of cards. And because of this is for me
not hard to understand why slavs kept apart, germanics kept aparts. But
on this reason is hard to understand the latinisation of that curiously
folk....I know just that this relationship regarding the marriage with
persons which did not belonged to your folk was already in the "Jus
Valahorum". It was simply forbbiden?by comunity. The apparition of the
cities made all this to become an obsolete law in dacoromanian space,
but it is still alive in the aromanian comunities. Very alive.