Re: [tied] cardinal points

From: george knysh
Message: 21634
Date: 2003-05-09

--- alex_lycos <altamix@...> wrote:
> george knysh wrote:
> > --- alex_lycos <altamix@...> wrote:
> >> The most illogical thing here is the very short
> time
> >> of Roman ocupation
> >> North of Danube versus " romanian did not
> innovated
> >> due missing conntact
> >> with the Roman World begining with the 3 century
> >> AC-> this imply
> >> Romanians NORTH OF DANUBE)
> >
> > GK: After the Roman abandonment of Dacia, the
> > territory north of the Danube was dominated for
> > centuries by Germanic (esp. Gothic) populations,
> > Transylvania included. We know that contiguity
> between
> > Germanics and Slavs resulted in the latter
> adopting a
> > fair number of words from the former. Is there any
> > evidence for something of the sort in
> Romanian?
>
> I guess there are some of them.
> �nnoi ( ana-nojan), �nhaita ( ana-haitan)etc. I did
> not compilled a list
> of this, it is working in progress.

*****GK: This is clearly something worth looking at
moe closely.******
>
> Question: do you have any information about the life
> of vlah communities
> in south slavic environment and the intermingling of
> them with other
> folks? Or regardign the North of Danube, specially
> in Transilvania, do
> you have any information of "late" way of life of
> valahians with the
> germanics , hungarian in Transylvania? You will get
> very valuable infos
> about this question of you reading about this topic.
> I will recommand
> you the work of Johan Filstich "Tentamen Historiae
> Vallachicae". You
> will understand maybe better his words:
> " they ( germans ) lived separated by valahians ,
> every folk keeping its
> language and traditions and they did not mixed
> together..."
> It will confirm the words of Pushcariu about
> aromanians, where he
> mentions that in the XVIII century the aromanian
> women have been
> monolingual and they did not knew an another
> language beside Romanian
> even if they lived in Slavic or Greek or Albanian
> theritory.
> One over another, Romanian was the "lingua franca"
> in all this region
> without having any statal structure, comming from
> itself or maybe from
> the status of "language of the majority"?
> I have no idea why germans & slavs intermingled. I
> don't have too any
> idea why the romanians and other nations did not
> intermingled in the
> earlier time on a wide scala.

*****GK: Judging by the number of Slavic origin words
in Romanian there was a good deal of linguistic
interplay between the various communities,
irrespectively of "family" intermingling. So the point
about possible Germanic borrowings into (Early)
Romanian remains. Absence thereof would be significant
it seems to me.******



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