Re: Was proto-romance a pidgin?

From: tolgs001
Message: 21306
Date: 2003-04-27

>The same phenomenon is seen in Romanian, where "to want"
>in its non-auxiliary sense is conjugated:
>
> vreau = voiesc (cf. aux. voi)
> vrei = voiesti (cf. aux. vei)
> vrea = voieste (cf. aux. va)
> vrem = voim (cf. aux. vom)
> vret,i = voitzi (cf. aux. vetzi)
> vreau = vor (cf. aux. vor)
>
>with forms that are largely rebuilt on the infinitive
>vrea (< vole:re).

It's worth adding that "a voi" [vo-'i] -- be it based on
Sl. voliti or Lat. *volere (velle) -- is not only
used as an auxiliary to build the future tense, but
also as a synonym to "a vrea": voiesc, voiesti, voieste,
voim, voitzi, vor / imperf: voiam, voiai, voia, voiam,
voiatzi, voiau / perf. am,ai,a,am,atzi,au voit / subj.
sa voiesc, voiesti, voiasca, voim, voitzi, voiasca etc.
future (indicative) eu voi voi [voj vo-'i].

Based on this verb, there are words such as vointza
(volition, will, determination, resolve), invoire
(permit), invoiala (agreement, contract), voie
(1. permission; 2. mood), voios (merry, glad) etc.

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As for the reintroduction of the VOCATIVE, again,
the fem. vocative -o is specific only to
South-Romanian regions in the provinces of Banate,
Oltenia (Little Walachia) and Muntenia (Walachia). In
the rest of the Romanian subdialects, such a -o vocative
is perceived as something... strange (although accepted
by the standard language). Instead, the fem. vocative
in other regions are -a, -a~ [&] and -e (if the fem.
word/name anyway ends in -e).

Moreover, even in the areas where the fem. -o vocative
is "at home" and okay, even there it is very well
replaceable by -a, -a~ [&] and -e. So, if Ann and
Helen will be called Ano, Eleno or Anutzo, Lenutzo,
these vocatives will be correct in South Romania
as well: Ana, Elena, Anutza, Lenutza! (to a somewhat
lesser extent these: An&, Elen&, Anutz&, Lenutz&! -
that are more specific for Transylvania and Moldavia).

OTOH, masc. and neutr. sg. can be -e and -le (i.e.
with defin. art.) where it fits; or with the same
ending as in the nominative+accusative.

George