Re: [tied] PIE *ts ?

Miguel:

>So why "The Semitic borrowings must necessarily have been introduced into
>IE during the neolithic"?

Mid IE speakers would have been mesolithic, not neolithic, of
course. However, this doesn't mean that they weren't affected
by trade that originated with the budding European neolithic.
Trade is trade. Mesolithic people traded with neolithic people.
I don't see how they couldn't.

The neolithic didn't happen in a vaccuum.

>No. The affricate allophone in *dhghom- is post-PIE, and I
>wasn't considering it.

I can't argue this point. Your resistance appears valid,
although I find myself intrigued for the moment by Piotr's
idea.


Miguel:

>Tocharian A has tkam. < *dhg^h�:m and cka:car < *dhugh&2t�:r,

Me:

>Problem: *dHgHom- and *dHugHxter- are different in that the
>former contains an initial consonant cluster and the latter
>does not.

Miguel:

>Huh? That fact was all I mentioned (the non-cluster is subject
>to Grassman's law (Tocharain version), while the cluster is not,
>otherwise we'd had *ckam).

Sorry, now I understand.

>*tt -> *tst gives /st/ in Tocharian.

Alright, thanks.


- gLeN


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