Re: [tied] More nonsense: Is English /d/ truely voiced?

From: Glen Gordon
Message: 19202
Date: 2003-02-25

Peter:
>I can't think offhand of a nice "minimal pair" (?Pamela Anderson
>before the operation? Or is that offensive?) but words such as
>Latin, forty, little, etc are not heard in my dialect of English
>as "ladin, fordy, liddle" but they do have a voiced medial consonant.

Ah, Pamela Lee Anderson and her side-show anatomy. Another minimal
pair would be those of Arnold Schwarzenagger after decades of
steroid use >:)

At any rate, I pronounce "latin", "forty" and "little" as /'lArn/
/'fORri/ and /'lIrl/. The only example of a preserved "t" is
"cafe latte" /kHAfe 'lAtHe/ but sometimes I get lazy and say
/kHAfe 'lAre/. I don't care. I'm a dialectal heathen.


- gLeN


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