Re: [tied] Sardinia

From: alexmoeller@...
Message: 16310
Date: 2002-10-16

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From: "Antonio Sciarretta" <sciarretta@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Sardinia


> Don't forget the connection with Sardis, the capital of
Lydia. This
> well-known similarity has been used to support the theory of
the Sardians
> as the predecessors of the Etruscans coming from Lydia as
reported by Herodot.
> Another connection is with the dynasty of the Heraclids,
which is reported
> to have ruled Lydia before the historical dinasty of Gyges.
The Sardus
> Pater, the eponym god of the Sardians, like its Punic
counterpart, was
> considered a son of Hercules/Melqart.
> Just for curiosity, Tharros has been recently equated to
Tarshish =
> Tartessus. Actually, a mention of T.r.s.s. or something
similar has been
> found in an inscription in Sardinia, but normally it is
believed to be
> referred to a Spanish Tartessus. There is more to say about
it...
> Regards,
>
> Antonio

[Moeller]
there is indeed more to say about.Let see:
the historian Ephor of Eolia, in fragmentum 80 in Frag. Hist.
graec.1 p.258 says about small Asia that the people who were
there were:
Cilici, Lyci, Pamphyi, Bithyni, Paphlagoni, Mariandyni,
Troieni, Cari, Pisidi, Mysieni, Chalybi, Phyrigi, Milyeni
In Syria and Mesopotamia we find such names for cities:
Balanae, Deba, Chaonia, Arimara, Larissa, Amuga, Chalybon,
Barbarissu, the mountains Amanus, Casius and Libanus(Ptolemeus
Lib V c 14)
In Mesopotamia, the cities: Deba, Ombrea, Dorbeta, Nisibis
IF Deba, Ombrea and Dorbeta doesnt require an explanation, the
Nisibis should have had in the pheonician language " small
stones puted together". For this explantion see Stephan
Byzantinium regarding "nisibis".In romanian "nisip"=sand. But
cd DEX nisip= bulgarian "nasip"
In Palestina we will find:
-in Samaria: Schgytopolis , Thirza or Tharsae
In Judeea: Lydda, Rama or Arimathia
in Perea: Raphana and Scythopolis . About Scythopolis Plinius
says it was a scythic colonie ( Plinius lib 5.16)
In Arabia Ptolemeus records:
Istriana, Satula, Rhadu, Lugana, Carna, Sata, Domana, Baeba,
Latha, Albana, Amara, Draga, Saraca, Deva, Dela, Lysa, Petra,
Medana, Lydia, Suratha, Gavara, Aurana, Sora
Plinius record other like: Thatice, Sandura, Nasaudum,
Rhemina.
I ahev to say I did not have had the time to verify by myself
these entries. I dont have the entries comparated with Tabula
Peuntagina but I will want to give a try because it is very
interesting.
As a matter of fact. In romanian for "village" you have "
sat", the village= satul.
But this is supposed to derive from a latin fossatum which
because of the phonology should have been not directly
inherited from latins but from albanians because of an old
form "fsat"...
well, how you say, there is indeed a lot to story about..