Re: [tied] Vanir

> If Aesir are not a fruit of imagination of ancient Scandinavians,

but a real

> tribe they must be Asses (= Yass = Yazig), a group of Alanian people
> (sometimes Asses were equated with Alans, sometimes were mentioned

side by

> side with them). Everything - name (letter by letter), time, place,

many

> details fit well.
>
> Whom Vanir could be then?
> Before moving in Europe many Alanian groups were incorporated into

the

> Hunnian horde, as usually happened with defeated nomads.
> BTW before the end of the 4th century AD, when Huns went to Europe,

they

> inhabited exactly the Lower Don, i.e. where Tanais "falls into the

Black

> Sea" and where Vanaheim was situated.
>
> A question to the linguists:
>
> Is it thinkable that a transformation like
>
> Hunnu > *Vun > Van
>
> occurred in a East Iranian or an North Germanic language ?

Aesir comes from the Proto Indo European root *ansu- "spirit/demon",
which gives Old Norse ass "god" (why would a tribe of humans call
themselves "the gods"?). This root also lies behind Vedic Asura,
Avestan Ahura.

Vanir comes from PIE *wen-[1] "to strive for/desire" - a root which
suits the 3rd funtion role of the Vanir - and is related not only to
Latin Venus (note Feya's byname Vanadis), but also Irish fiana (a
militaristic band of hunters/brigands, made up primarily of youths).

When will people get it through their heads that the Aesir and the
Vanir weren't real people? Apparently they don't teach anyone about
euhemerization anymore.

- Chris Gwinn