Re: [tied] Re: Apollo

Oh, this is nice. Lug-Vali-Apollo. I'd add Indian Rudra "healer but also
disease-bringer, archer, wolves and mice, Northern realms (Hyperborea and
Himalaya). The aspect of Rudra as god of wilderness, forests and beasts
remember more Apollo's sister, Artemis. Lugh is another very complex god,
whose traits are capable of almost endless comparations. Cian's father
Diancecht is also a healer god, that killed his own son. Cecht could be
cognate of Shakti (trait of Rudra-Shiva).

The antithetical partner of Rudra was Vishnu, like Vidar for Vali, and
perhaps Herakles for Apollo. How about Homeric Paian (Myc. pa-ja-wo) ? He
was Apollo or a different god?

Paradoxally, Rudra-Shiva is a combo of an IE "Apollinean" god and a
Dionysiac Pre-IE god.

I propose we start to try to analyzes the complexities of Greek deities. See
next message.

----- Original Message -----
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To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 3:12 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: Apollo


> --- In cybalist@..., "Joseph S Crary" <pva@...> wrote:
> >
> > Cas
> >
> > and all
> >
> > Before the Apollo cult became complex, it was simple, and a cult of
> > the moon and sun is was simple.
> >
>
> I think we are probably all in agreement that Apollo is a very
> complex god of a composite origin from which we can draw any number
> of comparisons and zero in on a select few attributes or myths and
> categorize him that way.
>
> I am most intrigued by his association as a serpent and serpent
> slayer, and his caduseus, as I already mentioned. His epithet 'silver
> bow' seems to identify him as a moon-god, but he also had a golden
> arrow - rather solar in symbolism.
>
> I think Apollo's parentage also suggests links to Lugh and Vali. Each
> of these gods had a father who was one of the 'gods': Lugh's was the
> Danaans Kian, Vali's was Odin, and Apollo's was Zeus. Each of their
> mothers, however, was the other race of gods: Lugh's mother Ethlinn
> was a Fomorii, Vali's mother Rinda was a Jotun, and Apollo's mother
> Leto was a Titan. Each god was a second generation young, handsome,
> brave, and skilled. Each was an avenger god. Each was associated with
> light. Perhaps another interesting fact is that the weapon that each
> was noted for are not the ones of the IE heavenly, war, and thunder -
> gods, which are the spear, sword, and bludgeon (hammer, axe, club,
> etc.). In fact, both Apollo and Vali had the bow, while Lugh had a
> slingshot.