Re: [tied] PIE *h3 and PPIE **n

marcus "hammer; big hammer" < *mart-icos <? *kmar-t-ikos, cognate of
Marcellus, martellus. Maybe the words with -l are a dissimilation of m-n >
m-l.
The alternance *kam-/*akm- can be a contamination of root *kam- with ak^-
"sharp". Heaven (heofon) < *himin- is stated as from *kem- "to cover", but
it's relation with akmon is not impossible: stone vault = heaven vault.

Other example of n/r is in seasons names: summer (*semr-/semn- : cf. summer
and samain), spring (*wesr/wesn- cf. ear and vasanta); winter
(*g^heimrr-/ghêimnn- cf. hibernus and ?) and autumn (osn-/osr- cf. asni- and
opo:ra). I dont' know if there's PIE names for 4 seasons, or 3 or 2, but
these names occurs in many languages.
Joao SL
Rio

----- Original Message -----
From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal <mcv@...>
To: <cybalist@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] PIE *h3 and PPIE **n


> On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:27:33 -0200, João Simões Lopes Filho
> <jodan99@...> wrote:
>
> >Can This r/n alternation explain the Latin marcus and Germanic *hamaraz,
> >"hammer", Slav kamy "stone", Greek akmon "stone". *kom-en- / -er- ?
>
> I don't recognize <marcus>. Germanic *hamaraz is related to the words
> for "stone", but the story is rather complicated. There is the
> curious alternation between *kam- and *ak^m-. The neuters in *-men
> don't participate in the **-n > *-r shift, and these words are not
> even neuters (Slav. kamy < *kamo:n-s; Gmc. hamar-az). There is also
> the occurrence of byforms with *-l (MHG hamel "rock", Norw. <humul>
> "stone"; Gothic <himins> "sky", ModE. "heaven" vs. German <Himmel>,
> Du. <hemel>) to further complicate matters. So no, my theory is too
> simple to explain this.
>
> >And the adjectives in -nos/-ros? cf. Greek kyknos "swan" and Sanskrit
shukra
> >"white, shining"
>
> Yes, that's what I claimed. Note further the interactions between
> u-stem adjectives and -rós (and *-nós) adjectives in Armenian (N.
> barjr (*bhrg^hr-), G. barju (*bhrg^hu-), NPl. barjunk` (*bhrg^hon-)),
> Tocharian (replacement of *-ú by *-rós: swa:re "sweet", pärkare
> "long").
>
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