Re: [tied] PIE *h3 and PPIE **n

From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
Message: 5033
Date: 2000-12-12

On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:38:12 , "Glen Gordon"
<glengordon01@...> wrote:

>Yes! A person by the name of Hans-Joachim Alscher
>(http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Hall/9766/indoeuro/gender.htm) has had
>his own page on this sound change for years and I've been restating this
>same rule already.

Alscher's rule is actually: -CnT > -Cr(T), which is not quite my rule
-n > -r, -m(V)n > -m(V)n, nor quite Martinet's rule -n > -r, -nt > -n.

>Hmm... Doesn't Toch.A. have -ma"s & -c for 1pp & 2pp? This looks awfully
>assymetrical unless maybe something got replaced in the 2pp as opposed to
>the 1pp. In which case, we shouldn't expect TochB -cer to be directly
>reflective of IE. What is the 1pp in TochB?

-m(o)

>>Palatalized **-n^ can give both *n and *i. This is apparent in a
>>number of lexical items (*nem-, *yem-, *em- "to take" < **n^em-; or
>>maybe *su:nus/*su:yos "son" < **suH-n^- (?)),
>
>Why do you insist on this stupidity? *suxnu- and *suxyo- are two totally
>different forms altogether! Do you ignore the important *-u-/*-o- difference
>just to aggravate or to be daft?

Actually, just because of a general Homeric/Attic bias. The
Proto-Greek form was an u-stem *<su:yus>: Lac. <huius>, Ion./Att.
<huius>. <Huios> is secondary (dissimilation and thematization).


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