Re: [tied] Re: PIE theogony

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 4001
Date: 2000-09-22

> wrote:
> > A little attempt of a PIE Theogony
> > 2) The old generation of gods: I'm still not sure, but I think
> that's traits of an older generation of gods (cf. Greek Titans,
> Indian Rshis or Prajapatis, cf. some Nordic Giants like Mimr or
> Belsta that were more "cosmogonic" than "monstruous")
> >Maybe this first generation represent the sacerdotal class... They
> >were born or from the Cow or from the body of Giant.
> Couldn't they represent Deities of vanquished folks, defeated by the
> IE? Note that the sacerdotal class is not to be submited in any part
> of the IE world: it may be true that in Greece this social level does
> not exist, the same is also apliable to the nordic world -
> interesting coincidence, anyway - but in India the brahmans rule the
> society, more and more, and the same happens amongst the Celts.

This "old generation" was not defeated, he became a kind of council of
ancients.


> > 3) Of this first generation, we have *Dyew, that had at least two
> wives, the sisters *DyuHni: (Nocturnal Sky Goddess, cf. Aditi and
> Dione) and Da:nu (?) (cf. Diti(Da:nu), mother of Danavas, and Domnu,
> mother of Fomoire). DyuHni: was mother of the aesir-like gods),
> *deiwo:s, and Da:nu of the Giants (cf. Nordic and Greek Giants,
> Indian Asuras or Rakshasas, Celtic Fomoires)
> *trsewes. (cf. Indian trsu- "monster", ON thyrs, from root ters- "to
> tremble, to fear))
> >
> > 4) Th Cow's milk originated a sea of milk (cf. India and
> Scandinavia). The gods and giants churn this sea to make
> the "ambrosia". From the milk were born the Vanir-like gods (just a
> guess!). The sea became salty.
> >
> > 5) The Vanir and Aesir fight, but became friends.
> This might be equivalent to the fight followed by truce that occurs
> in Rome, between the Roman Latins of Romulus and the Sabines of Titus
> Tatius.

Yes, the analogy between Aesir-Vanir-Giants and Romans-Sabines-Etrusques was
pointed by many authors.

Maybe Tusculus "etrusque" (<*Turs-co < akin to Thyrsenos,Thyrrenos)
influenced by *turs- < *trsu- "giant, monster"???