Re: PIE theogony

From: ARKURGAL@...
Message: 4016
Date: 2000-09-23

--- In cybalist@egroups.com, João Simões Lopes Filho <jodan99@...>
wrote:
>
> > wrote:
> > > A little attempt of a PIE Theogony
> > > 2) The old generation of gods: I'm still not sure, but I think
> > that's traits of an older generation of gods (cf. Greek Titans,
> > Indian Rshis or Prajapatis, cf. some Nordic Giants like Mimr or
> > Belsta that were more "cosmogonic" than "monstruous")
> > >Maybe this first generation represent the sacerdotal class...
They
> > >were born or from the Cow or from the body of Giant.
> > Couldn't they represent Deities of vanquished folks, defeated by
the
> > IE? Note that the sacerdotal class is not to be submited in any
part
> > of the IE world: it may be true that in Greece this social level
does
> > not exist, the same is also apliable to the nordic world -
> > interesting coincidence, anyway - but in India the brahmans rule
the
> > society, more and more, and the same happens amongst the Celts.
>
> This "old generation" was not defeated, he became a kind of council
of
> ancients.

The Titans and the Fomoire, and the Nordic Giants, were defeated.

> > 3) Of this first generation, we have *Dyew, that had at least two
> > wives, the sisters *DyuHni: (Nocturnal Sky Goddess, cf. Aditi and
> > Dione) and Da:nu (?) (cf. Diti(Da:nu), mother of Danavas, and
Domnu,
> > mother of Fomoire). DyuHni: was mother of the aesir-like gods),
> > *deiwo:s, and Da:nu of the Giants (cf. Nordic and Greek Giants,
> > Indian Asuras or Rakshasas, Celtic Fomoires)
> > *trsewes. (cf. Indian trsu- "monster", ON thyrs, from root ters-
"to
> > tremble, to fear))
> > >
> > > 4) Th Cow's milk originated a sea of milk (cf. India and
> > Scandinavia). The gods and giants churn this sea to make
> > the "ambrosia". From the milk were born the Vanir-like gods (just
a
> > guess!). The sea became salty.
> > >
> > > 5) The Vanir and Aesir fight, but became friends.
> > This might be equivalent to the fight followed by truce that
occurs
> > in Rome, between the Roman Latins of Romulus and the Sabines of
Titus
> > Tatius.
>
> Yes, the analogy between Aesir-Vanir-Giants and Romans-Sabines-
Etrusques was
> pointed by many authors.
>
> Maybe Tusculus "etrusque" (<*Turs-co < akin to Thyrsenos,Thyrrenos)
> influenced by *turs- < *trsu- "giant, monster"???

Rather interesting.