From: Bryan Levman
Message: 4991
Date: 2018-03-10
Hi Bryan,
In the Saddanīti, ‘abhavā’ is given as the aorist (ajjatanī) 3rd sing. middle form of ‘bhavati’ which doesn’t agree with Fahs reading. But the imperfect (hiyyatanī) form ‘abhavattha’ comes very close to ‘adattha’ (with shortening of ā before a conjunct).
The perfect (parokkhā) form is given as ‘babhūvittha’. The conjugational paradigms for all three past tenses for ‘bhavati’ can be found at Sadd I 29.
I’m working on a couple of small tables of inflections I plan to post to the group for reference.
With regards,
Jim
From: palistudy@yahoogroups.com <palistudy@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: March 8, 2018 12:52 PM
To: 'James Anderson' jimanderson.on@... [palistudy] <palistudy@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: RE: [palistudy] Re: Pali Endings table by Kogen Mizuno
Hi Dmytro, Jim,
According to Fahs (p. 286) adattha is third person sing. middle aorist and therefore means "he gave".
Suyyatha isn't in Fahs, but suyyati is ("he/it is heard" page 386), as present passive (Skt. śrūyate), so suyyattha or sūyattha presumably would then be the middle form with the same meaning, if there is such a form. If aorist, it should take an augment a- per Whitney . In any case, I can't find either of these latter two forms in the canon,
Metta, Bryan
On Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 2:26:53 PM EST, 'James Anderson' jimanderson.on@... [palistudy] <palistudy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Dear Dmytro,
You wrote:
" -attha 2. aor. 3sg. med.. adattha, sūyattha
Perhaps it means "was given", "was heard"? "
According to the table of 96 tense suffixes given at Kacc 422-430, also similarly given in the Saddanīti, the 3rd sing. medial ttha affix applies to two of the three past tenses with the ajjatanī (aorist) excluded. The ttha affix is also listed for the active 2nd person plural for all three past tenses. I'm not sure how one would differentiate these three past tenses in an Emglish translation as the parokkhā and hiyyatanī tenses are less often used in Pāli.
I will look further and maybe make a table for all of the 96 tense affixes. I happen to be studying the system of English and German verbs.
Best,
Jim
From: palistudy@yahoogroups.com <palistudy@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: March 7, 2018 9:11 AM
To: palistudy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [palistudy] Re: Pali Endings table by Kogen Mizuno
Dear Pāli friends,
I have updated https://dhamma.ru/paali/tables/palisufi.htm by including there the English translations of Pāli forms, made many years ago in Pāli Collective Yahoo group.
I would appreciate your help in correcting the translations. For example, I have not found in the Pāli grammar the form:
-attha 2. aor. 3sg. med.. adattha, sūyattha
Perhaps it means "was given", "was heard"?
If you have any thoughts on translations in the table, please contribute them here or in the https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XD56ESUam7yS26fa0o0rRZ4UXam0HW8riNROZInk3MY/edit?usp=sharing.
Metta,
Dmytro