Re: paññaavuddhisutta.m.

Rob,

your post has been a condition for me to be declining Latin nouns in my head
for the first time in...well, a long time!

(Actually, if you looked at lesson 1 in a school Latin book, it might help or
online I'm sure).

Usually we decline nouns in this order (I think the same for Pali), singular
and then plural. So taking the example of 'monk' -

Nominative (nom.)= Subject as in: The monk visited the Buddha
Vocative (voc.)= When spoken to as in: Listen monk
Accusative (acc.)= Object as in : he saw the monk
Genitive (gen.)= of...as in: the monk's bowl
Dative (dat.)= to..as in: He made an offering to the monk
Ablative (abl.)= by, from..as in: The buddha sat by the monk

It might be interesting to decline 'Bhikkhu', but maybe later! Too many gaps
for me without some research.

Jim, for  'dhamma' in the passage, Nina was considering factors and I had
considered 'essential factors' or 'conditioning factors' and you mentioned
conditions as one translation. I rather like essential factors if you think
this might be acceptable.

just looking at some interesting meaninsg of dhamma on p.121 of Brahmajala
Sutta (Bodhi) for those that have it. V.interesting.

Sarah

Sukin, Hi and welcome! I'm another of the lazy, inept students here...no
comparisons necessary!!


--- Robert Kirkpatrick <robertkirkpatrick@...> wrote: > Dear Jim,
> I have a sad confession. One of the biggest problems I have is
> with the English meta-language used to describe the grammar in
> pali. In New Zealand we don't study latin and thus all the words
> such as  nominative, accusative,
> instrumental, dative, ablative, genitive, locative are  like a
> foreign language in themselves( I understand verbs, modals nouns
> etc).  I recently ordered a grammar book that explains some of
> these terms but if you can recommend others I will order those.
> It is the hardest thing I found with studying Warder.
> robert


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