Re: paññaavuddhisutta.m.

Thanks sarah,
I've just ordered "English Grammar for students of Latin" from
amazon.
--- Sarah Procter Abbott <sarahdhhk@...> wrote:
> Rob,
>
> your post has been a condition for me to be declining Latin
> nouns in my head
> for the first time in...well, a long time!
>
> (Actually, if you looked at lesson 1 in a school Latin book,
> it might help or
> online I'm sure).
>
> Usually we decline nouns in this order (I think the same for
> Pali), singular
> and then plural. So taking the example of 'monk' -
>
> Nominative (nom.)= Subject as in: The monk visited the Buddha
> Vocative (voc.)= When spoken to as in: Listen monk
> Accusative (acc.)= Object as in : he saw the monk
> Genitive (gen.)= of...as in: the monk's bowl
> Dative (dat.)= to..as in: He made an offering to the monk
> Ablative (abl.)= by, from..as in: The buddha sat by the monk
>
> It might be interesting to decline 'Bhikkhu', but maybe later!
> Too many gaps
> for me without some research.
>
> Jim, for  'dhamma' in the passage, Nina was considering
> factors and I had
> considered 'essential factors' or 'conditioning factors' and
> you mentioned
> conditions as one translation. I rather like essential factors
> if you think
> this might be acceptable.
>
> just looking at some interesting meaninsg of dhamma on p.121
> of Brahmajala
> Sutta (Bodhi) for those that have it. V.interesting.
>
> Sarah
>
> Sukin, Hi and welcome! I'm another of the lazy, inept students
> here...no
> comparisons necessary!!
>
>
> --- Robert Kirkpatrick <robertkirkpatrick@...>
> wrote: > Dear Jim,
> > I have a sad confession. One of the biggest problems I have
> is
> > with the English meta-language used to describe the grammar
> in
> > pali. In New Zealand we don't study latin and thus all the
> words
> > such as  nominative, accusative,
> > instrumental, dative, ablative, genitive, locative are  like
> a
> > foreign language in themselves( I understand verbs, modals
> nouns
> > etc).  I recently ordered a grammar book that explains some
> of
> > these terms but if you can recommend others I will order
> those.
> > It is the hardest thing I found with studying Warder.
> > robert
>
>
>
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