Dear DC,

thank you for this interesting description. Let me do some research and reply to you and Nina.

Please do not think you are intruding any discussion. This group is just like most other Yahoo! groups, in which members share and discuss on certain topics. All are welcome to join the discussions.

Ours is an open, non-sectarian, non-academic group. Anyone who are not afraid to err, learn and share are welcome to post. Those who already know it all can post too, but do be patient and kind to those who are not.

metta,
Yong Peng.

--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, DC Wijeratna wrote:

I hope I am not intruding on this discussion. I am writing this because I�like to have a small carification.

Now Jhana is some sort of concentration. So your consciousness can have only one object; that is the meditation object. In other words, no thoughts, directed or otherwise except�the meditation object.

If the above assumption is right, then�savitakka and savicara is�thought about the meditation object. May be in�the next Jhana even that will be gone and you are just an observer.