--- > In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "Dmytro O. Ivakhnenko (äÍÉÔÒÏ
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> ¶×ÁÈÎÅÎËÏ)" <nibbanka@...> wrote:
> > Dear Robert and Pali friends,
> >
> > We have already discussed this topic at:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pali/message/3512
> >
> > > The ancient
> > > commentaries suggest that at this late stage in the sasana

that

> > > sukkavipassaka is the most viable.
> >
> > Would you please give a reference for these commentaries?
> >
> > +++++++++

Dear Dmytri,
In the samyutta Nikaya, I, 190, Vangisa Sutta, Invitation, that
with the Buddha were 500 monks who were arahats. The Buddha said to
Sariputta: "There is nothing, Sariputta, for which I blame these five
hundred Monks, in deed or word. Of these monks, sixty have the
threefold
knowledge, sixty have sixfold supernormal knowledge, sixty are
emancipated
in both ways, and then others are emancipated by insight (alone). "
We see the majority over 320, only developed insight.

This is because the way of insight alone is inferior to the way of
those who also master jhana. This dry-insight way is for those who
have not taken the necessary great amount of time, sometimes aeons,
to accumulate such wisdom that can do both.

The Commentaries explain far from the Buddha's parinibbana the
arahants have less sublime qualities, no more analytical knowledges.
In the first 1000 years they may have the 4 patisambhidhimaggas, the
next
1000 years there were only arahats who are sukkha vipassaka,
In the third period of thousand years there are only people who
have attained the state of non-returner, anagami, no arahants.
Robertk

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