Venerable Phra Yuttadhammo,
Many thanks.
op 20-06-2004 03:02 schreef Yuttadhammo op buffer@...:

> Here is AN 6.7.4 Comments:
>
> 1) "eko" has been translated as "alone", in order to give it strength (as
> opposed to "one"). On the other hand, I may have misinterpreted the
> grammer... :)

N:I think this is very good. Alone, solitary are also meanings of eko.
Phra: 3) "cittassa nimitta'm" - I took some liberty on it; since "citta" is
used

> sometimes in the sense of "meditation", and the commentary takes this phrase
> to be the "sign" in vipassana or samatha practice, I rendered this phrase as
> "the meditation object".

N: co: <citassa nimitta: nimitta of samaadhi citta and nimitta of vipassanaa
citta. >
I am thinking of the two meanings of jhaana: aarama.nuupanijjhaana,
meditation on the forty subjects (kasina etc) in samatha and
lakkha.nuupanijjhaana, contemplation on the three characteristics in
vipassana. We can take both of these as having a kammatthaana. Thus, I think
<the meditation object> is fine. The sutta is very compact.
As to sammaadi.t.thi, the Co states: sammaadi.t.thi in vipassana.
And this is very interesting:
< 'Not having brought right view to fulfillment, he will bring right
concentration to fulfillment' - this position is unfounded.>
We may wonder about the order, first sammaadi.t.thi and then samaadhi. But
the Co explains: <samaadhi is magga samaadhi and phala samaadhi>. Thus this
pertains to lokuttara citta. It is calm, being removed from kilesas.
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With respect,
Nina.
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Sutta:
'So vata, bhikkhave, bhikkhu sa'nga.nikaaraamo sa'nga.nikarato
sa'nga.nikaaraamata'm anuyutto, ga.naaraamo ga.narato ga.naaraamata'm
anuyutto, eko paviveke abhiramissatii'ti neta'm .thaana'm vijjati.
'Indeed he, oh monks, a monk, delighted by society, enjoying society,
engaged in the enjoyment of society, delighted by a group, enjoying a group,
engaged in the enjoyment of a group, will find great delight alone in
seclusion' - this position is unfounded.

'Eko paviveke anabhiramanto cittassa nimitta'm gahessatii'ti neta'm
.thaana'm vijjati.

'Not finding great delight alone in seclusion, he will grasp the meditation
object' - this position is unfounded.

'Cittassa nimitta'm aga.nhanto sammaadi.t.thi'm paripuuressatii'ti neta'm
.thaana'm vijjati.

'Not grasping the meditation object, he will bring right view to
fulfillment' - this position is unfounded.

'Sammaadi.t.thi'm aparipuuretvaa sammaasamaadhi'm paripuuressatii'ti neta'm
.thaana'm vijjati.

'Not having brought right view to fulfillment, he will bring right
concentration to fulfillment' - this position is unfounded.

'Sammaasamaadhi'm aparipuuretvaa sa'myojanaani pajahissatii'ti neta'm
.thaana'm vijjati.

'Not having brought right concentration to fulfillment, he will abandon the
fetters' - this position is unfounded.

'Sa'myojanaani appahaaya nibbaana'm sacchikarissatii'ti neta'm .thaana'm
vijjati.

'Not having abandoned the fetters, he will realise Nibbaana' - this
position is unfounded.


'So vata, bhikkhave, bhikkhu na sa'nga.nikaaraamo na sa'nga.nikarato na
sa'nga.nikaaraamata'm anuyutto, na ga.naaraamo na ga.narato na
ga.naaraamata'm anuyutto, eko paviveke abhiramissatii'ti .thaanameta'm
vijjati.

'Indeed he, oh monks, a monk, not delighted by society, not enjoying
society, not engaged in the enjoyment of society, not delighted by a group,
not enjoying a group, not engaged in the enjoyment of a group, will find
great delight alone in seclusion' - this position is founded.

'Eko paviveke abhiramanto cittassa nimitta'm gahessatii'ti .thaanameta'm
vijjati.

'Finding great delight alone in seclusion, he will grasp the meditation
object' - this position is founded.

'Cittassa nimitta'm ga.nhanto sammaadi.t.thi'm paripuuressatii'ti
.thaanameta'm vijjati.

'Grasping the meditation object, he will bring right view to fulfillment' -
this position is founded.

'Sammaadi.t.thi'm paripuuretvaa sammaasamaadhi'm paripuuressatii'ti
.thaanameta'm vijjati.
'Having brought right view to fulfillment, he will bring right concentration
to fulfillment' - this position is founded.

'Sammaasamaadhi'm paripuuretvaa sa'myojanaani pajahissatii'ti .thaanameta'm
vijjati.

'Having brought right concentration to fulfillment, he will abandon the
fetters' - this position is founded.

'Sa'myojanaani pahaaya nibbaana'm sacchikarissatii'ti .thaanameta'm
vijjatii"ti.

'Having abandoned the fetters, he will realise Nibbaana' - this position is
founded.
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