From: Blanc Voden
Message: 6092
Date: 2006-03-21
>has 'ofan frá' below (var verkr à enni hoegri kinn ofan frá
> Uoden
>
> Thanks for input but I'm not convinced. Zöega´s dictionary
>[mailto:norse_course@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Blanc Voden
> Kveðja
> Alan
>
>
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> Subject: [norse_course] Re: Hrafnkell 655-669 / Alanôs
>context.
> Hi there,
>
> "þar ofan frá"
>
> There above/over away/far: is near the meaning.
>
> Langt frá: is far away. This is what "frá" indicates in this
>second
> And it is nat far away but far above.
>
> kveðja
>
> Uoden
>
>
>
> --- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "AThompson" <athompso@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hereââ¬â¢s my translation and grammar notes. Seeking the
> opinion on:hamarr
> >
> > Þar ofan frá (line 660)
> >
> > Kveðja
> > Alan
> >
> > 655 Þeir leiða nú hestinn ofan eptir vellinum. Einn
> > They lead now the stallion down along the flat. A certain cragÞar leiða
> >
> > stendr niðr við ána, en fyrir framan hylr djúpr.
> þeirfat eitt á
> > stands down by the river, but in front of (it lies) a deep pool.
> There they lead
> >
> > nú hestinn fram á hamarinn. Þjóstarssynir drógu
> > now the stallion forward onto the crag. Thjóstarââ¬â¢ssons drew a
> certain bag overhestinum
> >
> > höfuð hestinum, taka sÃÂðan hávar stengr ok hrinda
> > (the) head of the stallion, take afterwards tall poles and pushHeitir
> the stallion
> >
> > af fram, binda stein við hálsinn ok týndu honum svá.
> > off forward, tie a stone around the (stallionôs) neck andlost
> (destroyed) him so. (It) is calledgoðahús þau,
> >
> > þar sÃÂðan Freyfaxahamarr. Þar ofan frá standa
> 660Lét hann
> > there afterwards Freyfaxiôs Crag. Down from there stand those
> temple buildings
> >
> > er Hrafnkell hafði átt. Þorkell vildi koma þar.
> flettacauses
> > which Hrafnkel had owned. Thorkel wanted to come there. He
> to stripahúsit ok
> >
> > goðin öll. Eptir þat lætr hann leggja eld àgoð
> brennaágæta gripi
> > all the gods. After that he causes to set fire to the temple and
> to burn
> >
> > allt saman.
> > everything together.
> >
> > SÃÂðan búask boðsmenn àbrottu. Velr Sámr þeim
> > Then (the) guests prepare (to) go on (their) way (ie away).Sám
> chooses excellent animals for them,með sér ok
> >
> > báðum brà "ðrum, ok mæla til fullkominnar vináttu
> 665vestr àfjörðu
> > both brothers, and (they) speak of (express a wish for) complete
> friendship among themselves and
> >
> > skiljask allgóðir vinir. RÃÂða nú rétta leið
> ok komasetti Þorbjörn
> > part very good friends. (The brothers) ride now a direct route
> west into (the West)fjords and arrive
> >
> > heim àÞorskafjörð með virðingu. En Sámr
> niðrThorbjörn down
> > home in Thorskafjorð with honour. But Sám settled
> >fór til
> > at Leikskálum. Skyldi hann þar búa. En kona Sáms
> > at Leikskalar. He should reside there. But Sámôs wife wentto
> >um hrÃÂð.
> > bús með honum á Aðalból ok býr Sámr þar
> > (the) farm with him at Athalból and Sám resides there fora time.
> >nú
> > Grammar notes:
> >
> > Þeir þeir:
> (pron) nom pl They
> > leiða leiða:
> (v) 3p pres ind lead
> >
>
> now(n)
> > hestinn hestr:
> acc sg the stallionofan
> >
>
> downeptir
> >
>
> along(pron)
> > vellinum. völlr:
> (n) dat sg the
> flat.
> > Einn einn:
> nom sg A certain(v)
> > hamarr hamarr: (n)
> nom sg crag
> > stendr standa:
> 3s pres ind standsr
> > nið
>
> downvið
> >
>
> bythe
> > ána, á:
> (n) acc sg
> river,en
> >
>
> butfyrir
> >
>
> inframan
> >
>
> frontÞar
> > hylr hylr:
> (n) nom sg pool
> > djúpr. djúpr:
> (adj) nom sg deep.
> >
>
> therenú
> > leiða leiða:
> (v) 3p pres ind lead
> > þeir þeir:
> (pron) nom sg they
> >
>
> now(n)
> > hestinn hestr:
> acc sg the stallionfram
> >
>
> forwardá
> >
>
> to(n)
> > hamarinn. hamarr: (n)
> acc sg the crag.
> > Þjóstarssynir Þjóstarssonr:
> nom pl Thjóstarôs sonscertain
> > drógu draga:
> (v) 3p past ind drew
> > fat fat:
> (n) acc sg bag
> > eitt einn:
> (pron) acc sg a
> >á
>
> over(n)
> > höfuð höfuð:
> (n) acc sg ? head
> > hestinum, hestr:
> dat sg (of) the stallion,an
> > taka taka:
> (v) 3p pres ind take
> > sÃÂð
>
> afterwardsok
> > hávar hár:
> (adj) acc pl tall
> > stengr stöng:
> (n) acc pl poles
> >
>
> and(n)
> > hrinda hrinda:
> (v) 3p pres ind push
> > hestinum hestr:
> dat sg the stallionaf
> >
>
> offfram,
> >
>
> forward,við
> > binda binda:
> (v) 3p past ind tie
> > stein steinn:
> (n) acc sg stone
> >
>
> byneck
> > hálsinn háls:
> (n) acc sg the
> >ok
>
> anddat
> > týndu týna:
> (v) 3p past ind lost
> > honum hann: (pron)
> sg himsvá.
> >
>
> so.called
> > Heitir heita:
> (v) 3s pres ind Is
> >þar
>
> therean
> > sÃÂð
>
> afterwardsÞar
> > Freyfaxahamarr. Freyfaxahamarr: (n) nom
> sg Freyfaxahamarr (Freyfaxiôs Crag).
> >
>
> Thereofan
> >
>
> downfrá
> >
>
> from (there)(v)
> > standa standa:
> 3p pres ind stands(n)
> > goðahús goðahús:
> nom pl priest buildings660
> > þau, þau:
> (pron) nom pl those
> >
>
>er
> >
>
> whichowned.
> > Hrafnkell Hrafnkell: (n)
> nom sg Hrafnkel
> > hafði hafa:
> (v) 3s past ind had
> > átt. eiga:
> (v) pp
> > Þorkell Þorkell:þar.
> (n) nom sg Thorkel
> > vildi vilja:
> (v) 3s past ind wanted
> > koma koma: (v)
> inf (to) come
> >
>
> there.(to)
> > Lét láta:
> (v) 3s past ind Caused
> > hann hann: (pron)
> nom sg he
> > fletta fletta:
> (v) inf
> stripEptir
> > goðin goð:
> (n) acc pl gods
> > öll. allr:
> (pron) acc pl all.
> >
>
> Afterthat
> > þat þat:
> (pron)
> > lætr láta:(n)
> (v) 3s pres ind causes
> > hann hann: (pron)
> nom sg he
> > leggja leggja:
> (v) inf (to)
> set
> > eld eldr:
> (v) acc sg fire
> > ÃÂ
>
> to
> > goðahúsit goðahús:
> acc sg the priest buildingok
> >
>
> and(v)
> > brenna brenna:
> inf (to) burnsaman.
> > allt allr:
> (pron) acc sg
> everything
> >
>
> together.an
> > SÃÂð
>
> Thenrefl)
> > búask búask: (v
> 3p pres ind prepare (to go)(n) nom
> > boðsmenn boðsmaðr:
> pl guestsbrottu.
> > ÃÂ
>
> on (their)
> >
>
> way.(n)
> > Velr velja:
> (v) 3s pres ind chooses
> > Sámr Sámr:
> nom sg Sám(for)
> > þeim þeir:
> (pron) dat pl
> themexcellent
> > ágæta ágætr:
> (adj) acc pl
> > gripi gripr:animals
> (n) acc pl
> > báðum báðir: (pronbrothers,
> pl) dat pl (for) both
> > brà "ðrum, bróður:
> (n) dat pl
> >ok
>
> and(v)
> > mæla mæla:
> 3p pres ind (they) speaktil
> >
>
> aboutfriendship
> > fullkominnar fullkominn: (pp as adj) gen
> sg complete
> > vináttu vinátta:
> (n) gen sg
> >með
>
> withhimself
> > sér sinn:
> (pron) dat pl
> >ok
>
> and665
> >
>
>refl)
> > skiljask skiljask: (v
> 3p pres ind partnú
> > allgóðir allgóðr:
> (adj) nom pl very good
> > vinir. vinr:
> (n) nom pl
> friends.
> > RÃÂða rÃÂða:
> (v) 3p pres ind Ride
> (they)
> >
>
> nowvestr
> > rétta réttr:
> (adj) acc sg direct
> > leið leið:
> (n) acc sg route
> >
>
> westok
> > ÃÂ
>
> into
> > fjörðu fjörðr:
> (n) acc pl fjords
> >
>
> andheim
> > koma koma: (v)
> 3p pres ind arrive
> >
>
> homeÞorskafjörð
> > ÃÂ
>
> in
> > Þorskafjörð Þorskafjörðr:
> (n) acc sg
> >með
>
> withEn
> > virðingu. virðing:
> (n) dat sg honour.
> >
>
> But(n)
> > Sámr Sámr:
> nom sg SámÞorbjörn
> > setti setja:
> (v) 3s past ind
> established
> > Þorbjörn Þorbjörn:
> (n) acc sg
> > niðr
>
> downat
> >
>
> atpl) dat
> > Leikskálum. Leikskálar: (n
> pl Leikskálar.þar
> > Skyldi skulu:
> (v) 3s past ind Should
> > hann hann: (pron)
> nom sg he
> >
>
> thereEn
> > búa. búa:
> (v) inf
> reside.
> >
>
> But(n)
> > kona kona:
> nom sg wife(n)
> > Sáms Sámr:
> gen sg (of) Sámtil
> > fór fara:
> (v) 3s past ind went
> >
>
> tomeð
> > bús bú:
> (n) gen sg farm
> >
>
> withdat
> > honum hann: (pron)
> sg himá
> >
>
> atalból
> > Aðalból Aðalból:
> (n) acc sg Að
> >ok
>
> andresides
> > býr búa:
> (v) 3s pres ind
> > Sámr Sámr:(n)
> nom sg Sámþar
> >
>
> thereum
> >
>
> fortime.
> > hrÃÂð. hrið:
> (n) acc sg a
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